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Stanley
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Posted -  15/06/2006  :  10:40

Earth to Barrowford.......  I need a bit of help.  I wrote a piece this week which included some info on the origins of the radio relay service in Barlick. 

"I realised I knew nothing about this and so I rang Walt Fisher at Earby because he is always a mine of information on anything to do with electricity. He told me that piped wireless was started in Barlick by Stanworth and Shorrocks who started the Stanrock Radio Relay company from their shop at number one, Rainhall Road. We think this was in the 1930s because the telephone number is given as 80. The cost of the service was one shilling a week and the main receiver and hub of all the cables was in the yard on the right up York Street as you turn off Rainhall Road. Later on Stanworth and Shorrocks had their shop in Albert Road opposite the Majestic on the corner, it’s a travel agent now. They used to have a wooden hut on the site where the Post Office is now and this was their workshop. Walt even knew the name of the man who put most of the cables up which were strung around the town, it was Teddy Cook who was the projectionist at the Majestic Cinema at the time. Just one other item of interest about this, the air raid siren during WW2 was at the gas works on Skipton Road and the warning was relayed from there through the piped wireless system to make sure that everyone heard it."

Good stuff and thankyou Walt.  This triggered of a memory of a conversation I had with Mr Plunkett [was it Alwyn?] at the radio shop in Barrowford about twenty years ago.  He told me that his father set up one of the first radio relay services in the country.  Does anone have any knowledge/memories/info about this?  If so, please post it in this topic.  Thanks, S.




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Another
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Posted - 15/06/2006 : 10:46
Comrade, I kow nothing about it Nandy Gigglepants  or BJ  will be the ones  to delve into this. Nolic


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BarrowfordJohn
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Posted - 15/06/2006 : 12:55

Yes, Stanley, it was Alwyn Plunkett. I haven't much on this although I do recall that when we moved into the brand new council houses on Oaklands (1954) the house was connected to the relay via a large brown bakelite box containing a coaxial socket. We payed Plunketts weekly for this service.

As a lad I remember Plunketts shop had a number of large L & S wave aerials out the back, they progressed into TV rentals and had the upper floor of Berry's Mill no.1 shed (above Riddiough's Caravan works) for a repair workshop. This upper floor was linked to Berry's (now Talbot Plating) via a 40 foot high gantry/ bridge that had long been dissused. One Sunday morning in about 1960 Nandy and his mates (who were 5 years older than us) made Spud and myself 'walk the plank' across this bridge which, by then, only consisted of  two  girders about a yard apart. Only absolute terror (after all we were only about 7 years old) stopped me and Spud from freezing half way across, besides which the Barrowford Mafia were prodding us with sticks to keep us going.

When we reached Plunkett's workshop we found that the door was open and so Nandy suggested that we could use the lift down into the loading bay instead of chancing our arm back over the girders. However, fate intervened in the form of Polish Alec who worked for the Plunketts. Alec had been a Spitfire pilot during the war and brought his Polish wife over to England to settle in Barrowford afterwards. Unknown to us Alec was working overtime that Sunday morning and the sight of him appearing from among the stacked TV and radio sets caused mass panic. "Leg It" shouts Nandy and pushed me back out of the door onto the bridge, a stampede followed and, with me and Spud again at the front of proceedings, we flew back over the girders ten times faster than our first attempt. To this day I think of running full pelt along a 10 inch wide girder, 40 feet above ground, for about 50 feet, at the age of 7, and wonder how we survived. We got our own back though, Nandy's mob decided to have a ride in the lift (of course they wouldn't let me and Spud in and left us on the ground) so we pressed the emergency stop button when they were between floors, ran to nearby Jackson & Hanson's garage and told them there was an emergency as Riddiough's lift had blown up -and could they call the fire brigade? This they did and all the services appeared on the scene just as the Mafia had managed to extracate themselves from the lift.  Me and Spud were tittering our heads off at this stage ( from a safe distance) .

There had to be a follow up, of course, the Mafia's revenge was to put me and Spud on a scaffold pipe outside the top floor of the half-built flats in Fountain Square. They took away the ladders and legged it, leaving us high and dry.

Anyway, after that major digression, back to radios -  here is a short excerpt from "In Those Days" by  Albert Morris (mine and Nandy's late uncle):

 1930s......
As kids, we knew the use of carbide chips for, after school we would go to Sam
o' Nicks, the welding and engineering works at the bottom of Church Street.
Lee Jackson and his son Nicholas, generated their own acetylene gas from
chunks of calcium carbide in a large generator. Up the hillside, above the
workshop, were large piles of spent carbide lime which, over the years, had
hardened into hillocks. Their workshop machinery was powered by a
paraffin-gas engine which had to be started by throwing a powerful flywheel
round and many's the time Nicholas or Lee himself had been thrown against the
wall by hanging on too long when it started unexpectedly.

A generator charged accumulators for battery radios, the accumulators being
similar to car batteries but smaller and with glass cases. These were used to
supply the valve filament with a low voltage, while 120 volt dry batteries
supplied the high voltage. Radios, in those days, also had a third power source,
a nine volt battery which supplied what was known as 'grid bias' voltage to the
valves. As many as twenty accumulators at a time could be charged and a large
number of lamps were used to drop the voltage. This set-up looked like something
out of science fiction.




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Stanley
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Posted - 15/06/2006 : 13:51
Good stuff John.  Keep your eyes and ears open about the relay circuit, an aspoect of local history that seems to have sunk without trace.  Later on the system in Barlick transmitted TV as well after Rediffusion bought it.  Funny thing is when they closed down they left all the cables up, miles of them still survive in the town.


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Big Kev
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Posted - 15/06/2006 : 15:13

I wondered what the big black cable was that runs over my roof......

I used to have "cable" tv in the early 80's in south east London, I paid £4 a month for it and it included the tv, bargain....




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belle
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Posted - 15/06/2006 : 16:04
BJ how nice to hear from you i was beginnig to think you had dissappeared off the face of the earth, but perhaps this terrifying childhood you appear to have had makes you prone to spells of meditative silence!  Anyway, good to see you back.


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Ringo
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Posted - 15/06/2006 : 16:27
We pulled the cable off the front of our house when we replaced the guttering last year.


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Another
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Posted - 15/06/2006 : 19:34
We used to ent our TV from Shorrock's  when we lived in Barlick in the 1950's. They were the only firm who could get you decent reception 'cos of the barrier that Weets presented to Winter Hill. Nolic


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BarrowfordJohn
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Posted - 16/06/2006 : 11:11
Thanks belle, I have been incommunicado (the weather's been lousy there) as I'm finishing off a book. Speaking of old cables, if anyone finds any old pot insulators from the early radio and telephone systems they are saleable on Ebay. I pulled 3 out of a skip last month and they brought £45. 


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Posted - 16/06/2006 : 11:15
Not sure about the insulators but I could do you a good deal on some cable.....


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 16/06/2006 : 11:54
Bloody hell BJ......  There's a market for anything!  I think we need to have trot down the disused railway line......  Lots of pots on the side there.


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melteaser
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Posted - 16/06/2006 : 12:13
Hows the document going BJ? Have you managed to decipher it yet....I'm trusting to you to tell me what it's all about


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BarrowfordJohn
Regular Member


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Posted - 17/06/2006 : 14:03
Stanley, the BR insulators seem to sell at a premium to collectors. Mel, not long now - I haven't forgotten - I know the doc relates to the new house build in Barrowford, posted by Stanley.


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melteaser
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Posted - 17/06/2006 : 19:12

No rush BJ, just wondered how you were doing with it.  I couldn't make head or tail of it.




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moh
Silver Surfer


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Posted - 18/06/2006 : 13:38
I remember going with my grandad to change the accumulator at a local shop in Yorkshire - must have been around 1941 - my grandma carried on with this method until she moved to a house with electricity - modern times!!!!  They also had an oil lamp which was lowered on to the table to be lit and filled, candles were used for bedtime, and the 'privy' was way down the bottom of the garden - full of spiders and creepy crawlies - all this I remember from summer holiday visits.  Grandad died when I was 4 - so it shows how small children have very good memories - what are your earliest ones?

Edited by - moh on 18 June 2006 13:39:40


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 19/06/2006 : 07:15
See the LTP for Sid Heaton and Stanley Fisher charging people's batteries from the mill's DC electrical system.  Johnny Pickles reckoned that Sid made as much money from charging LT cells as he did from engine driving.


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