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Stanley
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This is a continuation of Steeplejack's Next Corner. Click on this link for the older topic:
Jacks Corner Part 3
Stanley Challenger Graham

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AlanMc
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Posted - 07/02/2010 : 22:43
Stanley,
That is most surprising. Why do you consider they didn't?
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Stanley
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 08:12
Couldn't say, just not their style. Everyone knew they'd done the job so why put a plate on? The only thing they ever marked was plant they made themselves like valves, donkey engines and pumps.
Stanley Challenger Graham

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AlanMc
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 22:07
BRASS BOILER REPAIR PLATES Over the 39½ years I operated H.A. McEwen (Boiler Repairs) Limited, I found that two of the many keys to running a successful business were producing first class workmanship and then carrying out a great deal of PR. Just after I established the firm in August 1968, subsequent to completing a satisfactory boiler repair job and with my clients permission, we would fix one of our distinctive brass ‘BOILER REPAIR PLATES’ onto the front of the boiler. Not only was this an excellent way of promoting my business, but the Insurance Company’s Boiler Inspectors also approved of us fitting the plates which included a stamped reference number and date of hydraulic test. For by using the reference number, when making contact with our office at any time in the future they could receive from us comprehensive details of the boiler repair procedures. There have been numerous examples over the years where Boiler Inspectors or prospective customers, on seeing our repair plates mounted onto a boiler, have made contact resulting in us receiving some lucrative contracts. I could never understand why our few Boilermaking competitors never fitted boiler repair plates of their own. There were often some very quiet times, particularly in winter when jobs were hard to come by. But there were a number of occasions when the phone would ring from a new customer who had copied our contact details from our boiler repair plates. With a couple of notable exceptions most of our competitors have now gone out of business but McEwen Boilermakers are still thriving. Today, our little brass plates have become collectors’ items.
Edited by - AlanMc on 08/02/2010 10:09:28 PM
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Stanley
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 16:31
I see that the company that makes Guinness has reported a 10% fall in sales. Can Tom have withdrawn his custom? I think SC should gallop in to the rescue!
Stanley Challenger Graham

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TOM PHILLIPS
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 21:54
Ive quit drinking and telling the truth
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Stanley
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Posted - 12/02/2010 : 06:55
It won't last long......
Stanley Challenger Graham

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TOM PHILLIPS
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Posted - 12/02/2010 : 15:48
Your dead right Stanley,10 mins and iam out and on it...
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AlanMc
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Posted - 12/02/2010 : 16:27
Stanley,
I am certain that you would concur with what I was saying regarding " Repair Plates"---now you have seen ours. Excellent examples of a firm's pride in its products and services.
Many Happy Steamings Ahead!  
Edited by - AlanMc on 12/02/2010 4:29:22 PM
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Stanley
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Posted - 12/02/2010 : 17:37
Sorry Alan, not really. The only time I would agree would be if something had been substantially rebuilt and was in effect re-manufactured. I suppose it all depends on how much publicity you need and whether you have the time.
Stanley Challenger Graham

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AlanMc
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Posted - 12/02/2010 : 18:45
Sorry Stanley, but perhaps you have never operated a business established , financed and run by yourself. All legal ways of promoting a firm owned and operated by its directors should be taken at every opportunity; I know. I have been there and got the badge. Promotions based on delivering first class workmanship--is the key to profit;without which there is no prosperity in a business, which ultimately is bad news for the firm's employees--including the business owners.
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Stanley
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Posted - 13/02/2010 : 06:48
Alan, don't take me to task because I don't agree with you. REW don't do it for one and I don't think you'll question their work or management. Brown and Pickles never did it either and in their time they were the most successful heavy engineers in Barlick. As a matter of fact I have run my own business and was never short of work. I never put a plate on anything, the only time I put my name to a job was when I built the Whitelees engine and I was following tradition in that the fitters who rebuilt it at Holroyds punched their names on the flywheel as well. Just the same as watchmakers do, inside the cover and unobtrusive.
Stanley Challenger Graham

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AlanMc
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Posted - 13/02/2010 : 09:45
Stanley, Perhaps many other firms did not have the " passion"---as I have always enjoyed. And among a handful of other drives, strengths , and perhaps a few weaknesses too,---I know this passion assisted me in making my business together with my whole life--a success.
Just to close the topic on " Repair Plates "--on finishing a rather complicated riveting job on a 1903 Cornish boiler at Etruria Industrial Museum, the Manager made a point of asking if we would attach a repair plate , and at N.R.M York the same applied. On producing new boilers of all types, the fitting of " Makers Plates "is mandatory and forms part of the British & European boiler code.
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Tizer
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Posted - 13/02/2010 : 11:43
Alan and Stanley, I can agree and disagree with both of you! I too have run a small family business for many years and our business name and logo are very well-known and (thank goodness) respected in the narrow scientific publishing field in which we operate. The name and logo are prominent on every book and bit of promo material we publish and on our web site. Our customers expect it and our authors want to be seen writing for that name and logo. If, when we retire, we sell the business that's one of the things that the buyer will be paying for. I would have thought Alan's customers would like having his plate on their boilers and they also know that if something was bad about the boiler everyone else would know it was a McEwen one - motivation for Alan to get his boilers right.
On the other hand in a market where everyone knows everything about everyone else, and knows who does what and who made what, perhaps it doesn't matter and it's just down to personal taste! But there will be a lot of collectors out there who will thank Alan for putting plates on his boilers.
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Posted - 13/02/2010 : 13:43
Tizer,
Well said my friend!!! I Glean from your words of wisdom that you too have have earned " THE BADGE!! " Regarding producing good workmanship"--all work carried out is periodically inspected by qualified Boiler Inspectors who sign off the work following the statutary hydraulic test. Unlike " cowboy builders " for example, Firms such as ours could not carry out any boiler repairwork without the Insurance Boiler Inspector's input. And new boilers--ranging from packaged types to traction engine and railway locomotive boilers--from the basic sketches thro' the full design, production of drawings; manufacturing procedures to the granting of the insurance certification--all have to be done with the absolute approval of the certification authority.
Without the certification/ report you cannot sell your boiler. By us mounting our " Repair " and "New Manufacturing Plates " it not only satisfies the requirements of the authorities, but among many positive things--all excellent for your business standing-- it also serves the purpose of generally promoting your firm--similarly to your publishing business.
I have employed the same criteria to SLEDGEHAMMER ENGINEERING PRESS LTD,which is now just two years old. All of our business paperwork includes our highly regarded LANCASHIRE BOILER logo, as does our Fiat van, the website etc; Both Christine and are extremely passionate and proud of our small writing & publishing business, and the results speak for themselves for we have to date sold a large amount of our books not only in the U.K. & Ireland but overseas.
I have met a considerable number of small business owners over the years, who unbelieveably when asked how they are fairing, say :" I've never advertised, don't see the need, I don't bother with business cards and fancy letterheads, envelopes either, etc; etc." As soon as there is a recession---many of these chaps are then on the dole. You cannot build up a nationally renowned , profitable business any other way.
Edited by - AlanMc on 13/02/2010 1:49:40 PM
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bob hulin
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Posted - 14/02/2010 : 09:25
Tom, dont laugh hehe. i was at the stockport town hall postcard fair on saturday 13th feb 2010. i know a London postcard dealer who gets me steeplejack stuff for my collection. he said to me ive got you some good stuff this was with some bits he had for me, you could have knocked me for six. when i saw it was David Schollick. on a chimney in Dukinfield , looking at the Ladders it could be a J. Devlin job????.
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