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I received the replacement rear airbeam for the tent yesterday, here it is:

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It's rolled up here apart from the end with the valve assembly and made from a high grade polythene. When installed this is encapsulated in a heavy ripstop nylon tube which is zipped along about 90% of its length to allow installation. The assembled beam is itself captivated in a sewn in channel of the outer flysheet canopy making it an integral part of the tent. The valve assembly has three stages, the bottom ring is what secures it through a stitched in port through the flysheet, the second level of the valve can be unscrewed for deflation, the one way valve itself is in the third stage and has a sealing screw cap, you unscrew this to inflate the beam. All of the stages of the the valve have integral safety loops so you cant loose any of the parts when you unscrew them. The pump for the beams has an automatic bypass valve that limits the pressure to 7psi
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Makes our ex WD 'two man bivvies' in the 1940s look antediluvian! Wooden tent poles in sections with brass ferrules, a spike on top of the pole which engaged in a sewn grommet at the peak and string guy ropes. The tent material was heavy green canvas duck that took ages to dry. I remember that in heavy rain when they sprang a leak the trick was to run your finger down the inside so it dripped on the grass. The groundsheet was separate and smaller than the tent. I'll bet they were using the same construction in the Crimean War!
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The rear beam change will have to wait. We have made the executive decision now the tent is dry to pack all the gear away until Spring. The change in the weather and notwithstanding the Covid restrictions have put paid to an early Autumn trip out. We will see what it looks like in Spring. We have most of our ancillary stuff in plastic boxes with lids which makes packing and storage a lot easier. We have moved all our camping gear out of the landing cupboard and now keep it in the small spare bedroom, more room to move about in there. I have all our boxes sorted and upstairs, just the tent to go now and a few items still in the top box on the car. These are mostly flat stuff, table, camp kitchen, stove etc. I will take the top box off and the roof bars and they will go up there on the first fine day which we may get with a bit of luck tomorrow or over weekend.
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That sounds sensible Ian.
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Yesterday was bob on for emptying the roof box and getting it off the car. Bars have gone upstairs, box is waiting until we have stacked and stored all the other stuff properly. I have kept our can of waterproofing spray out as one of Sally's kagouls needs a treatment.
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Just booked for four nights up at Robin Hoods Bay. Will be able to get the new air tube deployed in the Horizon. Lent the top box to Neil for a few days but that is now back, will need to get the roof bars off him though. :smile:
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That's journeying to foreign parts Ian!
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Not really its in Yorkshire and we have been before. :extrawink: It was the venue for our first back to camping session. It's a nice site and had availability which was the crux of the matter. I checked loads of sites and couldn't find any others that I checked that had consecutive days available. Just at the tail end of the school holidays, (after the last weekend for many) so we are hoping it will be reasonably quiet on the family field.

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I'm fairly sure when I booked our camping trip that we were allocated a pitch on the family field which is the smaller of the two. My confirmation emails says we are on the main camping field, winner. :smile: Lots more room on that one. Confirmation when we check in no doubt.
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Monday to Friday was done on the site at Robin Hoods Bay. As it said on the email we were on the main field despite what the original booking said. Better anyway and we prefer that field as there is a lot more room.. Well organised toilets and facilities cleaned regularly, closed mid morning until mid afternoon for cleaning, unisex toilet available if required. We were pitched next to a row of pods the nearest of which had two changes of occupancy while we were there. It was grey and overcast for the duration with intermittent drizzle. Thursday was OK and the sun was out so we went for a drive up to Falling Foss and a walk through the woods. Mid afternoon we walked down to Robin Hoods Bay through the fields, the path comes out next to one of the chip shops so it was rude not to participate. We ate our tea on the rocks by the slipway, beach was pretty busy but not overly rammed.

Radio wise it was a bit of a disaster. I could not get any drive out of my multi-mode transceiver on SSB. I thought it could have due to the WiFi mast that was on our power pole but that is not the case. I have checked the transceiver off site and it is still the same, fine on FM but stuffed on SSB. :sad: I will have to have a look at that to see if I can effect a repair.

Striking camp took a couple of hours and we left the site at about 10.30am yesterday. Uneventful drive back, same way as we came. Pickering, Thirsk, Ripon. We stopped at the EH site at the top of Sutton Bank for lunch and a break from driving. Got home mid afternoon. Unpacked essentials and the stuff that needed washing etc. Rest of the car to empty today.

Despite the grey skies for most of the duration it was a nice break.
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I thought you had gone q1uiet on the radio front. Hard luck. You'll find the problem when yo get home, after all it was working when you went wasn't it?
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The antenna was fine Stanley but to be honest I didn't check the transceiver. It was perfectly fine when I upgraded the internal batteries. I had no reason to suspect that there was any problem so just checked the charge on the batteries and away we went. Best laid plans and all that. I will report in the AR threads of what I find.

Back on topic for this thread, I will have to take the tent up Letcliffe next fine day. We didn't pack it right, we took the inner tent out and I forgot to pack it back with the outer canopy. I know I can do a better job and get it smaller than it currently is.
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That could be in the next couple of days Ian.
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I checked on the compression bag for the tent to confirm what I thought, there is no actual repacking instructions for the tent. I took the opportunity to watch a generic tent packing video on YouTube presented by a member of staff of one of the big camping suppliers. I couldn't find one for my particular tent but chose one for a six or eight person air tent with five air-beams, we only have three :extrawink: . The deflation and repacking would follow the same principles. I recognised almost immediately where we had been going wrong, we folded and we should have rolled!

Folding and refolding will never result in the correct dimensions to fit the bag so we have always struggled a bit with the final packing into the Easy Pack :smile: bag. Watching the video the trick is to deflate from the back beam forward, this automatically chases any trapped air out of the collapsing canopy, you finish with the front beam. When you use a footprint groundsheet as we do the bottom of the outer tent remains clean so you can safely fold underside to topside without soiling the canopy. This is the crux of the matter, we have always folded so the upper canopy is encased within the sewn in groundsheet. This is standard procedure for a tent with sewn in groundsheet that sits directly on the ground with no footprint. The footprint is the game changer. The final trick is to set the width that you want the final pack to be on the first fold, you start this on the side opposite the air-beam valves which of course are open. You continue to fold maintaining the width you need at the same time driving all the air from the tubes at each fold. You finish the folding at the valve side so you now have a single long rectangle of the correct width to fit the storage bag or compression wrap which is what our tent has. Simple matter then to roll as tightly as possible from one end at the same time as driving any remaining air from the bundle. Sit the final bundle on the compression wrap, pull up the end flaps and secure with the compression belts, repeat with the side flaps which have the carrying handles, job done. Glad I watched that video, we refolded the inner to the same width as the rectangle and rolled it in along with the main canopy. The tent is now repacked and is the smallest we have ever done it since we got it. You live and learn.

A picture is worth a thousand words so here is how to do it correctly:


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