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Post by Wendyf » 04 Jul 2020, 11:21

Yes, I remember Col was offered one as soon as he reached 65.

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Post by plaques » 04 Jul 2020, 17:08

Ian, Obviously you are right. It was when I was attending the well mans clinic not long after the scan had become available I asked at the desk if I was eligible for the scan. I was told in no uncertain terms that I must get approval from my doctor with priority given to those who may need surgery. Being as fit as a butchers dog didn't get me high enough on the morbidity count. Maybe a bit of empire build going on here.

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Post by PanBiker » 04 Jul 2020, 17:44

I was basically the same, when I turned 65 I had already spent 40 mins with Airedale's best cardio consultant who pronounced me as good as it gets for my age. This after a Junior doctor thought he heard a heart murmur on his morning round when I was in the AAU. That invoked the cavalry who put that one to bed. Missed my dinner in the process but hey ho. :smile:
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Post by Whyperion » 04 Jul 2020, 20:57

Marilyn wrote:
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Since hubby has qualified for cheaper drugs, he gets so confused that they change shape/colour/ packaging so often. I have to sit beside him and talk him through the changes, reading the packets and telling him they are the same drugs. I can understand how it gets confusing for some. He really struggles with it.
I dont get confused, just a , oh no its changed again - some have day on the week on the blister, or up the middle serving two sides or not at all. Some are small, but wide, others thin and narrow boxes. Impossible to file in the medicine chest logically.

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Post by Stanley » 05 Jul 2020, 02:52

Maz, no such thing as a free lunch, everything has a cost, even charity. So we support the concept of sharing the burden on the poor by paying for the NHS from national income. We also defend the concept. People in a system similar to the US have to pay for cancer treatment and ICU in the case of Covid. We spread the cost and don't have to pay personally and so are not barred from essential health care by lack of means.
Ian is right, one of the consequences of Covid has been a focus on properly supporting social care and paying the nurses and carers a commensurate wage.
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Post by Stanley » 07 Jul 2020, 03:55

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The old joiner's shop on Bank Street in 2012.

I have been remiss and not done a pic of the latest developments. About three years ago the shop and the land were bought and redevelopment started in the shape of new build houses. It has progressed in fits and starts since then but of late work has started again. All that remains of the old joiners shop is the back wall.

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This is how it looks now from our back street. You can see the houses rising beyond the back wall and I suppose it won't be long before it goes and the joiner's shop will be a forgotten corner. Note to self, must do a pic of the houses!
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Post by PanBiker » 07 Jul 2020, 08:59

Royal British Legion Women's Section building was next door. All the poppies and remembrance wreaths used to be delivered and distributed from the building when my mum and dad were involved.
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Post by Stanley » 08 Jul 2020, 05:20

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The Legion building had gone in 2001 when I did this pic which I think is my earliest of this part of Bank Street. David Hoyle was still in business in the joiners shop and the red building which was the ambulance depot earlier was being used by the Council as storage and a base for the street sweepers. I think I need to do a current view!
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Post by PanBiker » 08 Jul 2020, 08:52

Joinery shop was Grange's when I was a lad. We lived on Craven Street so this whole area was part of my playground along with Wellhouse and Havre Park.
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Post by Stanley » 10 Jul 2020, 05:10

Today's forgotten corner is topical, the plight of the old people in care homes. I think it's generally accepted that possibly infected people were transferred to care homes to free up hospital beds. Care workers are being denied visas on income grounds because they are so badly paid. This morning we hear that dementia sufferers are deteriorating because visitors are banned, the death rate from dementia has gone up. We all know that local council funding has been cut to the bone with unavoidable repercussions on social care in homes and the community. Do we need any more evidence that old people are regarded as expendable and neglected to the point where they become a forgotten corner?
Sorry to post this here but in my view one of the key indicators for the health of society as a whole is how we treat the elderly. On this measure we are failing and in deep trouble.
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Post by Stanley » 10 Jul 2020, 08:53

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I updated the Bank Street pic.

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On the way down there I grabbed this. Spot the cat!
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Post by Cathy » 10 Jul 2020, 09:51

Yes, it’s on outside window sill, hope it got back inside without too much bother.
I know I'm in my own little world, but it's OK... they know me here. :)

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Post by Stanley » 10 Jul 2020, 12:10

I think it knew exactly what it was doing Cathy. No sign of distress, just soaking up the rays!
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Post by PanBiker » 10 Jul 2020, 12:20

If I had the escape Velux open up in my radio room in the loft, our cat Millie would be up and out onto the roof. She would patrol the whole length of the terrace row on both sides inspecting the troughing and anything else interesting to moggies. she could always find her own way down as well if she went out without me realising and I shut the window. She used to climb the pear tree in the front garden and the larger trees in the gap through the row. Moggies don't generally like going backwards but some make an exception when coming down out of trees. She's not a forgotten corner but no longer with us, she's in the front garden though near to the pear tree. :smile:
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Post by Marilyn » 11 Jul 2020, 02:28

Our dog used to climb up the tiered garden bed in the back yard, climb on to the pergola, make her way onto the roof and stand on the ridge capping. Which was really quite frightening, as our home was single storey at the rear and two storey at the front (it was built into a hill). A heart stopping experience to come home in the car and see the dog looking down on us from two storeys up! I made hubby remove the pergola entirely.

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Post by Stanley » 11 Jul 2020, 03:25

"I made hubby remove the pergola entirely."
I can just imagine you doing that Maz!

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My original Mrs Fulvia heading for the graveyard at New Garage Barrowford in 1982. The lads took her engine and drive train out and put in a newer Fulvia I got for peanuts and that served me well for a few years until that also had to go.

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That one left home in 1986 sold to three students from Leeds. The subframe had gone and I made them sign a note that said they understood that I didn't consider it roadworthy. I never got sentimental about most cars but the Fulvias were different. Talk to anyone who has ever had one and they will almost certainly feel the same. A forgotten corner. Look at THIS mine was the coupé.
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Post by Stanley » 12 Jul 2020, 04:03

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Workers leaving a factory in Dundee at the end of a shift.

Today's forgotten corner is very short. Images like this one used to be common in Barlick, workers streaming out of the mill at the end of the day or at lunchtime. We will never see this sight again. It may be that mass employment on this scale is indeed a forgotten corner. I have to wonder what is coming.
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Post by Christian » 12 Jul 2020, 14:03

Little teaser for Stanley!
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One I have got it all uploaded to Google Drive I'll post the link. Its a good 4GB+
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Post by Stanley » 13 Jul 2020, 02:24

I haven't recognised anything Christian, give us a clue! Lovely quality even in JPG.
Later, having woken up and had another look I think the top image is Stock with Bracewell just out of shot on the bottom right.... No clues as yet on the other one except for the fact that's almost certainly Stock Beck winding it's way through the pic.
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Post by Christian » 13 Jul 2020, 08:10

Correct! Stocks it is.



I picked a copy up of Vera Brearey's book on Thorntons old road yesterday, thought it would be rude not to drive on and have a nosey around Barlick for some new places to take pictures of.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... jpK6R8X9lh

^Google Drive link, feel free to download/view etc, all in an unedited state, beware(on limited connections), each image is 5mb, the videos range from a few hundred mb to multiple gb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=743-ub8QbZc

^ 4 minutes of flying around.

I will be popping back to take another look as its a very interesting place, if I havent covered an important part, just let me know and I'll see what I can do

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Post by Stanley » 14 Jul 2020, 03:28

Wonderful Christian. I particularly liked the second one, I know that ground like the back of my hand and it was a real pleasure to watch it. I suspect drone flying is a bit like metal detecting, it makes you think 'If I had my time to do over again'. So interesting, more please!
That'll do for today's forgotten corner, there is so much history in that landscape. Look up John Clayton's LIDAR images of the area on the site, it was once very heavily populated right from Barlick though to Horton. The more we dig, the more we find!
One specific suggestion, look at the area between Townhead and Calf Hall which includes the old site of the monastery and I believe, the even older Saxon Church. Put Saxon Church in the site search and it will take you to a lot I have written about it. Besides, 'Shitten Ginnel' would make a good title on Google!
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Post by PanBiker » 14 Jul 2020, 08:31

Fantastic images Christian and watching your YouTube video i have just realised we may be related. Through marriage, my wife Sally is a Carleton girl (Hutchinson) before we were wed. She is related to lots of folk in the village and the Jacksons are part of the extended bunch, Aunts, uncles and cousins etc. Which branch do you belong to?
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Post by Christian » 14 Jul 2020, 21:36

I hope they sparked something for ya Stanley!

I've had a look around Esp lane and the area, and the O.S. Maps. and I will definitely get there. After 33 years on the planet I might have actually found something I really damn well enjoy! The bird has a new camera and loved the meadow on the way to Stock Village, I just couldnt get over how superb the ground is.

Pan, I'm related to the Hutchinsons through Cousins. If Sally has a lady called Sirenna in heir family tree, Its her that dunnit and interbred the village!

Fred(Used to drive the van for Auto Factor, looked like Colonel KFC and drove the funeral motors& limo's for Marsden), Hes my Grandad, Stella his wife is my Nanna. Peter who used to own Auto Factor is their son, and my dad.

I remember Maurice doing the funerals with my Grandad, Eating meat n potato pies from saintys, Wilf? who had a little garage next to 7 Stars, Pendle metal craft on crows nest. Paint shop and a lovely old vintage model shop on the way up to firestation near the co-op.



Anyway, cheers for liking the images. Hoping now the weather seems to be keeping dry for half an hour I'll get back out.

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Post by Stanley » 15 Jul 2020, 02:19

Knowing the difficulties you had in the past Christian, that's a lovely post. You sound like a different bloke. Whatever it is you're doing it's working! Wonderful all round. :good:
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Post by plaques » 15 Jul 2020, 08:40

Christian, excellent pictures, you could now compliment the normal maps with seasonal images which could show features not normally seen from aerial views. Gawthorpe Hall Victorian gardens is a classic example. Gawthorpe..

An outline of the original garden as seen during an extended dry spell.
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