MYSTERY OBJECTS

[Tripps]

I always considered a gill to be half a pint (10 fl oz - Imperial measure)

Coincidentally (again), there was a question on Tipping Point yesterday 'how many noggins make a pint? They gave the answer as ' four' - which makes one equal to half a gill.

Situation not helped by the USA pint being 16 fl oz. If you're talking whisky - then that's a different matter. Whisky noggins

[PanBiker]

I have always considered a Gill to be a quarter pint. It would seem the Noggin is the same.

Noggin

[Tripps]

It's hard to argue with the reference you give, and I won't, but I know that if I asked for a gill in any pub in the North West - I'd be served with a half pint.

[Whyperion]

I always thought a noggin was a short piece of thick timber supporting a purlin and a rafter in roof building or between joists in floor /ceiling frames.

[chinatyke]

I think there are different noggins and gills depending on where you are. Even one on-line dictionary defines a noggin as a quarter of a pint and a gill as half a pint. But in the textile mills the gill was a quarter of a pint and a noggin was a quarter of a gill = one sixteenth of a pint. Sorry, we're going off topic. What was the milk dispenser called? (Ours was called George Lawson!)

Whyperion, you're thinking of a nogging.

[Stanley]

Sorry, you've got close but nobody has it yet.
If you ask for a gill in a pub you'll get half a pint but it started off in life as a quarter of a pint. I always thought of a noggin as smaller than a quarter of a pint but never knew the exact quantity. Always thought of it as a spirit measure.

[Bodger]

Piggin, nowt to do wi porcine creatures. ?

[Stanley]

No Bodge but you are in the right area. It was a plain tin cylinder with a copper handle that was hooked so that it could hang on the rim of the kit under the lid. Called a 'lading tin' and made in different sizes. The genuine originals have a blob of solder on the side with the inspection mark of the Inspector of Weights and Measures stamp impressed in it and the year number.
I used to have a set of three, pint, half pint and gill. Don't know where they went to.....
Next one?

[Cathy]

Ladin tin. So instead of just being a Ladle to transfer a small amount of liquid, was it made into a jug made out if tin to transfer larger amounts, a Ladin tin?

[Stanley]

The key thing about the lading tin Cathy was that it was calibrated so that when brim full it was a definite amount. It made it easy for the customer to be sure they were getting a fair deal. In this example, a pint of milk.

[Tizer]

Yes, this is a flower...but from what? It's about 3 inches in length.

[Wendyf]

Is it a rhododendron or azalea flower? It's that time of year.

[Cathy]

An Iris.

[chinatyke]

String beans - those long green beans?

[Big Kev]

Courgette?

[Gloria]

I agree....courgette.

[Tizer]

No correct answers yet - keep trying!

[Wendyf]

A weigela?

[StoneRoad]

Is it a foxglove ?

[Stanley]

God knows.... Is it a Lily?

[Cathy]

A lilac coloured trumpet flower.

[PostmanPete]

I'll guess at an Ipomoea - the 'morning glory' ?

[Tizer]

StoneRoad almost has it with `foxglove' but that word alone doesn't identify it fully. It's not related to the foxglove in our gardens.

[Wendyf]

Is it in your garden now Tiz?
Penstemon?

[Tizer]

No, we picked up the flower in our local park in Taunton. Not many people will have this in their gardens!