Coronavirus (Covid19) Corner

[Whyperion]

Having had post viral fatigue syndrome ie ME in the 1980 s this is history repeating itself and despite endless research they are still not sure what causes it or indeed a cure. I think the research is going on out there but the answers are difficult to find. One question is why do some viruses cause this so violently and others do not. The similarity between long covid and ME has been recognised and as I understand it there is co operation between the teams in the research areas . Just because we don’t hear about the research is does not mean it isn’t going on

I think I suggested some time ago , Genetics is one, in both the virus lock ons and the chromosone proteins and what makes "brain flow function" efficient or blocked. Some could be immune system wrong , so is attacking either cells, or something that the cells use to function after getting mis programmed or over excited following a virus attack. another might be whatever cells - mental ones or otherwise need to build their strength has ceased to work or the "food" is not available or synthesised correctly. The obvious one thinks about some kind of "clogging" as that is what it feels like but it is probably more complex than that.

[Sue]

Having had post viral fatigue syndrome ie ME in the 1980 s this is history repeating itself and despite endless research they are still not sure what causes it or indeed a cure. I think the research is going on out there but the answers are difficult to find. One question is why do some viruses cause this so violently and others do not. The similarity between long covid and ME has been recognised and as I understand it there is co operation between the teams in the research areas . Just because we don’t hear about the research is does not mean it isn’t going on

I think I suggested some time ago , Genetics is one, in both the virus lock ons and the chromosone proteins and what makes "brain flow function" efficient or blocked. Some could be immune system wrong , so is attacking either cells, or something that the cells use to function after getting mis programmed or over excited following a virus attack. another might be whatever cells - mental ones or otherwise need to build their strength has ceased to work or the "food" is not available or synthesised correctly. The obvious one thinks about some kind of "clogging" as that is what it feels like but it is probably more complex than that.

Yes I agree about the genetics. Its certainly a complex issue that years ago I looked into in detail. These days I have lost the thread a bit and its nice to be reminded of the complex issues. Thank you

[Stanley]

I've booked my Covid Booster at Everest on All Fools Day!

[Sue]

I've booked my Covid Booster at Everest on All Fools Day!

Ours are booked for ne t Friday

[Whyperion]

BBC Was showing last night some reminders about people who had died from Covid, one I think was a nurse with a young family. I think I wrote about a article I read in a paper of a mid-50s truck driver that got Covid at the end of 2020. To me I dont know if hospital treatments were correct or effective even after what had been learned over the year, with the use of some asthma treatements can be useful, and also it was difficult to work out what was virus caused and what was any secondary bacteria ("pneumonia") infections. I said before it was a strange virus , (and viruses are strange - when even "mild" primary infections give rise to these long-covid problems being noted). Will it take three generations and a century to get over this

[Stanley]

I was impressed once more by how quick and efficient the NHS website was. If only all government IT was as good!

[Whyperion]

Oct 28 2025
Rule changes came into force this year meaning people aged 65 to 74 years old, who do not have a serious illness which weakens the immune system, are no longer eligible for free NHS covid jabs. Two new strains of the virus - Nimbus and Stratus - continue to take hold in the UK, leaving patients complaining of a ‘razor blade’ sore throat on top of typical covid-like symptoms.

Last week government data showed there had been 100 deaths from Covid, the highest level in five months since May. Confirmed infections were up by 10% and over 2,000 patients were hospitalised with the virus in England.

[Stanley]

In 2024 Dementia and Alzheimer's disease continued to be the leading cause of death in England and Wales, with 68,273 deaths registered (12.1% of all deaths). Compared to that a couple of hundred from Covid is hardly worth a mention.....

[Whyperion]

Unless from early onset dementia I think D and A is "old age" ? ( symptom or cause ?? ) know of a couple of folks at present nursing home aging in basically persistent vegitative state (and both since there 30s caused by falls), Nursing home happy to take the fees

[Tizer]

I've been trying to get a covid update jab for some weeks now but the system has been in a mess locally with places offering them then dropping out. Finally got an appointment - and it's with our own GPs!

[Stanley]

That was the case here as well Peter. It's why I finished up with appointments for both flu jabs on the same day on opposite sides of the road!

[PanBiker]

I think its OK if you qualify, but if you are aged 65 to 75 you are judged to have immunity, apparently.

[Big Kev]

It's a strange set up, last year I was eligible as I am diabetic. This year, despite it being 'on the list' I'm not...

[PanBiker]

I used to qualify due to Sally's compromised immune system but that doesn't count either now.

I thought the plan was to reach herd immunity (already done) and then maintain that with up to date and new strain boosters. denying that original regime to a large percentage of the population seems counter productive to me. Maybe it is designed to reduce the pension pot burden. Even if that's the case its a funny way to go about it as it will over tax an already overwhelmed NHS.

[Tripps]

Since the "vaccine" does not prevent infection (tell me about it) - everyone I know who has been "vaccinated" has caught it - some several times -, and neither does it prevent transmission as described in The Guardian it does not matter a great deal.

The side effects - one of which very nearly killed me three years ago - are significant though.

If you choose to believe something else then that's fine. It's a free country.

PS My remarks apply only to the mRNA "vaccine".

[Whyperion]

Of course there is not "one vaccine" , different ones used different methods , Tizer or Sue might have better access to scientific / statistical research on which had "worse/more" side effects and maybe some suggestion why ? mRNA I think was one, While much related to suggestions from the Common Cold Research programme - it did show it was difficult to make a reliable vacine measure against for some reason Corono Viruses specifically.
Interesting that a vaccine does not prevent infectionability - maybe some vaccines work by making you feel rough when you get the "real" virus early and so you stay home - maybe others are less good at that - you feel better and infect more - such is the problem with airborne viruses - why dont bats die from the virus though - diff blood and T-Cells - anyone looked at them ?