All BBC radio transmitters delivering the same tribute transmission for 90 years of public broadcasting. The UK transmission was made from the Science Museum from next to the original transmitter that was use for 2LO as the station was first known back on the 14th November 1922. The transmission was simultaneously broadcast across all BBC transmitters and was estimated to have reached over 80 million people.
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Mine too Moh. I can remember when I sent over 100 but those days are gone, if they're on email I use that and if they aren't, the important ones will get a card.
Private Eye got my attention yesterday. If you want some in depth coverage of the BBC furore read page six, as I suspected, a lot more to it than meets the eye. If you don't get PE, remember the name Angus Stickler and see if it crops up in the media. He is at the centre of the affair. (LINK)
Private Eye got my attention yesterday. If you want some in depth coverage of the BBC furore read page six, as I suspected, a lot more to it than meets the eye. If you don't get PE, remember the name Angus Stickler and see if it crops up in the media. He is at the centre of the affair. (LINK)
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The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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I got mail from a friend in the US this morning asking if I had come across this lady. I had, but as the Suffragette Movement has never cropped up in my Barlick research I have never pursued it. I thought it might be of interest.
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Cooper [née Coombe], Selina Jane (1864-1946), suffragist and socialist, was born on 4 December 1864 in Callington, Cornwall, the sixth of seven surviving children of Charles Coombe, railway labourer and later railway subcontractor, and his wife, Jane Uren, dressmaker. In 1876, after her father's sudden death from typhoid fever, eleven-year-old Selina, her widowed mother, and youngest brother moved up to Barnoldswick in north-east Lancashire where cotton mills offered jobs to impoverished families like the Coombes.
Selina Coombe became a half-timer: she combined part-time school with working as a creeler in the cardroom, supplying bobbins onto which fleecy strands of cotton were wound prior to spinning. On her thirteenth birthday even her half-time schooling ended forever, and the 1881 census records sixteen-year-old Selina as 'Cotton Operative'. Shortly afterwards she left the cardroom to care for her mother, now bedridden; and in 1883 they moved to nearby Brierfield, squashed between Burnley and Nelson, both fast expanding weaving towns. Here Selina worked as part-time nurse, part-time washerwoman until her mother's death in 1889. Returning to the mill, she entered Tunstills' winding rooms and joined a trade union-the large Burnley Weavers' Association. Other aspects of Selina Coombe's life, however, like those of so many other working-class women of her generation, remain shadowy.
Nelson and Burnley became early centres of socialism, and Selina Coombe was among the many millworkers drawn into the heady movement. On 24 October 1896 the Revd Leonard of nearby Colne Independent Chapel, a socialist, conducted the marriage of Selina Coombe and Robert Cooper (1869-1934), cotton weaver and founder member of the Nelson Social Democratic Federation (SDF). Their son John Ruskin was born on 21 May 1897 but died of acute bronchitic convulsions on 24 September 1897: this private sorrow haunted Selina long afterwards. However in 1899 Leonard offered the Coopers escape into the countryside, managing a new Co-operative Holiday Association centre at Keld in Swaledale. On their return, their daughter Mary was born on 8 March 1900; and about new year 1901 the Coopers moved to nearby 59 St Mary's Street, Nelson-where all three lived for the rest of their lives.
In 1898 Selina Cooper was elected president of the new Brierfield branch of the Women's Co-operative Guild, so gaining invaluable experience as a public speaker and finding a springboard for the suffrage campaigning which now swept her up. About 1900 she began collecting signatures locally among women cotton factory workers for a petition protesting that their denial of the franchise was 'unjust and inexpedient' (Liddington, 102). On 18 March 1901 she accompanied the 29,359-signature petition down to Westminster, informing the Lancashire MPs meeting the deputation that women have 'to educate their children, but if they are not interested in national life, how could they impart to their children a knowledge of true citizenship?' (ibid., 105). At this gathering Selina Cooper, fast emerging as a talented speaker, met influential members of the National Union of Women's Suffrage Societies (NUWSS) including the society's president, Millicent Fawcett, and the Leeds socialist Isabella Ford.
The Coopers' home became a focus for local campaigns. In February 1901 Selina Cooper was elected a poor-law guardian, her candidature supported by both the SDF and the Independent Labour Party (ILP). In 1903 she helped launch the Lancashire Women Textile Workers' Representation Committee, and in 1906 organized the Nelson Suffrage Society which met in the Coopers' small front room.
Selina Cooper's belief in both socialism and women's suffrage was tested in 1905 and again in 1907 at Labour Party conferences when, as an ILP delegate, she seconded a women's suffrage resolution-only to be defeated by an adult suffrage amendment. Disenchanted, suffragists like Selina Cooper distanced themselves from the Labour Party-and from the increasingly militant Women's Social and Political Union. Instead, from 1906-7 she worked as a NUWSS organizer, deploying her considerable speaking skills nationally-including supporting the young Bertrand Russell, suffrage candidate at the 1907 Wimbledon by-election.
However in 1912 a new Labour-suffrage alliance was forged, triggered by the obduracy of Herbert Asquith's Liberal government and helped by ILP lobbying of the Labour Party. Along with other radical suffragists-Ada Nield Chew, Annot Robinson, Ellen Wilkinson-Selina Cooper now became in tremendous demand as a speaker; helped by the NUWSS's new election fighting fund, she stumped the country, supporting Labour by-election candidates and lobbying the giant Miners' Federation to put its might behind women's suffrage.
On the outbreak of war suffrage campaigning was suspended. Selina and Robert Cooper, like other ILP members, opposed the war and supported local conscientious objectors; in 1917 Selina bravely led a Women's Peace Crusade procession through Nelson, despite scuffling and jeering. But unlike other internationalist suffragists, Selina Cooper did not resign from Mrs Fawcett's NUWSS; and once women over thirty were enfranchised in 1918 the NUWSS encouraged her (rather unrealistically, given her feminism and her anti-war stance) to stand for parliamentary selection in a Lancashire constituency.
In 1923 and again in 1924 Selina Cooper did stand for election-as Labour candidate for Nelson town council; an outspoken socialist and known supporter of birth control, she was not elected. However, nominated by the Nelson Weavers, she was appointed a magistrate in 1924; and in 1930 she was co-opted onto the Burnley guardians (a district within Lancashire's new public assistance committee). As unemployment rose in 1931, Selina Cooper JP found herself outnumbered on a magistrates' bench 'swarming with manufacturers' (Liddington, 369) after a Nelson Weavers' demonstration against strike-breakers led to a mounted police charge and an arrest. Later that year, amid economic and political crisis, grassroots socialists like Selina Cooper found their convictions shaken to the core by Labour leadership betrayal. 'Philip Snowden and MacDonald took place of a God in those days. And when they tumbled, my mother', Mary Cooper recalled '... got very sad' (ibid., 377).
In 1933 Selina Cooper spoke in London's Central Hall on married women's right to work-'the married women of the north beg their sisters in the south to help them face the "new menace" which is threatening our position as women workers' (Liddington, 402)-sitting down to thunderous applause. Recently widowed, she was invited in 1934 by a new pro-communist Women's World Committee Against War and Fascism to join a small delegation to Nazi Germany to visit four women prisoners; on her return she told about the grim realities of Nazism. A supporter of the Popular Front in the late 1930s, in 1940 Selina Cooper joined the more marginal People's Convention initiated by the Communist Party; she was soon expelled from the Labour Party, so finding herself for the first time in half a century cast outside mainstream labour politics. It was a bitter blow.
Selina Cooper died at home on 11 November 1946 shortly before her eighty-second birthday, and was cremated three days later. The memorial meeting was attended not only by Coombe and Cooper relatives, but also by Nelson's mayor and councillors, fellow magistrates, and members of the public assistance committee, Nelson Labour Party, women's co-operative guilds-and even one or two from the far-off Edwardian days of the Nelson Women's Suffrage Society.
Memories of the campaigns of Selina Cooper and her associates faded rapidly after the First World War, overlain by the more dramatic suffragette narratives of the Pankhursts. However, her papers were preserved by her daughter, and rediscovered in 1976; and in 1996, to mark the fiftieth anniversary of her death, a memorial exhibition and lecture about Selina Jane Cooper were organized in Nelson.
Jill Liddington
Sources J. Liddington, The life and times of a respectable rebel: Selina Cooper, 1864-1946 (1984) + Lancs. RO, Cooper MSS + Oral history interviews with Mary Cooper, Tameside Local Studies Library, Stalybridge, Manchester Studies Oral History Tapes + J. Liddington and J. Norris, One hand tied behind us: the rise of the women's suffrage movement (1978) + b. cert. + d. cert. + CGPLA Eng. & Wales (1946) + parish register (baptism), Callington, Cornwall, 25 March 1870
Archives Lancs. RO, corresp., papers, and photographs, PDX 1137 SOUND Tameside Local Studies Library, Stalybridge, Manchester Studies Oral History Tapes, Mary Cooper tapes
Likenesses E. Buck, photograph, Women's Library, London [see illus.] · photographs, Lancs. RO, Cooper MSS, PDX 1137 · portraits, Lancs. RO, Cooper MSS, PDX 1137
Wealth at death £423 4s. 11d.: administration, 7 Dec 1946, CGPLA Eng. & Wales
To read this Life of the Day complete with a picture of the subject,
visit http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/lotw/2012-11-14
Cooper [née Coombe], Selina Jane (1864-1946), suffragist and socialist, was born on 4 December 1864 in Callington, Cornwall, the sixth of seven surviving children of Charles Coombe, railway labourer and later railway subcontractor, and his wife, Jane Uren, dressmaker. In 1876, after her father's sudden death from typhoid fever, eleven-year-old Selina, her widowed mother, and youngest brother moved up to Barnoldswick in north-east Lancashire where cotton mills offered jobs to impoverished families like the Coombes.
Selina Coombe became a half-timer: she combined part-time school with working as a creeler in the cardroom, supplying bobbins onto which fleecy strands of cotton were wound prior to spinning. On her thirteenth birthday even her half-time schooling ended forever, and the 1881 census records sixteen-year-old Selina as 'Cotton Operative'. Shortly afterwards she left the cardroom to care for her mother, now bedridden; and in 1883 they moved to nearby Brierfield, squashed between Burnley and Nelson, both fast expanding weaving towns. Here Selina worked as part-time nurse, part-time washerwoman until her mother's death in 1889. Returning to the mill, she entered Tunstills' winding rooms and joined a trade union-the large Burnley Weavers' Association. Other aspects of Selina Coombe's life, however, like those of so many other working-class women of her generation, remain shadowy.
Nelson and Burnley became early centres of socialism, and Selina Coombe was among the many millworkers drawn into the heady movement. On 24 October 1896 the Revd Leonard of nearby Colne Independent Chapel, a socialist, conducted the marriage of Selina Coombe and Robert Cooper (1869-1934), cotton weaver and founder member of the Nelson Social Democratic Federation (SDF). Their son John Ruskin was born on 21 May 1897 but died of acute bronchitic convulsions on 24 September 1897: this private sorrow haunted Selina long afterwards. However in 1899 Leonard offered the Coopers escape into the countryside, managing a new Co-operative Holiday Association centre at Keld in Swaledale. On their return, their daughter Mary was born on 8 March 1900; and about new year 1901 the Coopers moved to nearby 59 St Mary's Street, Nelson-where all three lived for the rest of their lives.
In 1898 Selina Cooper was elected president of the new Brierfield branch of the Women's Co-operative Guild, so gaining invaluable experience as a public speaker and finding a springboard for the suffrage campaigning which now swept her up. About 1900 she began collecting signatures locally among women cotton factory workers for a petition protesting that their denial of the franchise was 'unjust and inexpedient' (Liddington, 102). On 18 March 1901 she accompanied the 29,359-signature petition down to Westminster, informing the Lancashire MPs meeting the deputation that women have 'to educate their children, but if they are not interested in national life, how could they impart to their children a knowledge of true citizenship?' (ibid., 105). At this gathering Selina Cooper, fast emerging as a talented speaker, met influential members of the National Union of Women's Suffrage Societies (NUWSS) including the society's president, Millicent Fawcett, and the Leeds socialist Isabella Ford.
The Coopers' home became a focus for local campaigns. In February 1901 Selina Cooper was elected a poor-law guardian, her candidature supported by both the SDF and the Independent Labour Party (ILP). In 1903 she helped launch the Lancashire Women Textile Workers' Representation Committee, and in 1906 organized the Nelson Suffrage Society which met in the Coopers' small front room.
Selina Cooper's belief in both socialism and women's suffrage was tested in 1905 and again in 1907 at Labour Party conferences when, as an ILP delegate, she seconded a women's suffrage resolution-only to be defeated by an adult suffrage amendment. Disenchanted, suffragists like Selina Cooper distanced themselves from the Labour Party-and from the increasingly militant Women's Social and Political Union. Instead, from 1906-7 she worked as a NUWSS organizer, deploying her considerable speaking skills nationally-including supporting the young Bertrand Russell, suffrage candidate at the 1907 Wimbledon by-election.
However in 1912 a new Labour-suffrage alliance was forged, triggered by the obduracy of Herbert Asquith's Liberal government and helped by ILP lobbying of the Labour Party. Along with other radical suffragists-Ada Nield Chew, Annot Robinson, Ellen Wilkinson-Selina Cooper now became in tremendous demand as a speaker; helped by the NUWSS's new election fighting fund, she stumped the country, supporting Labour by-election candidates and lobbying the giant Miners' Federation to put its might behind women's suffrage.
On the outbreak of war suffrage campaigning was suspended. Selina and Robert Cooper, like other ILP members, opposed the war and supported local conscientious objectors; in 1917 Selina bravely led a Women's Peace Crusade procession through Nelson, despite scuffling and jeering. But unlike other internationalist suffragists, Selina Cooper did not resign from Mrs Fawcett's NUWSS; and once women over thirty were enfranchised in 1918 the NUWSS encouraged her (rather unrealistically, given her feminism and her anti-war stance) to stand for parliamentary selection in a Lancashire constituency.
In 1923 and again in 1924 Selina Cooper did stand for election-as Labour candidate for Nelson town council; an outspoken socialist and known supporter of birth control, she was not elected. However, nominated by the Nelson Weavers, she was appointed a magistrate in 1924; and in 1930 she was co-opted onto the Burnley guardians (a district within Lancashire's new public assistance committee). As unemployment rose in 1931, Selina Cooper JP found herself outnumbered on a magistrates' bench 'swarming with manufacturers' (Liddington, 369) after a Nelson Weavers' demonstration against strike-breakers led to a mounted police charge and an arrest. Later that year, amid economic and political crisis, grassroots socialists like Selina Cooper found their convictions shaken to the core by Labour leadership betrayal. 'Philip Snowden and MacDonald took place of a God in those days. And when they tumbled, my mother', Mary Cooper recalled '... got very sad' (ibid., 377).
In 1933 Selina Cooper spoke in London's Central Hall on married women's right to work-'the married women of the north beg their sisters in the south to help them face the "new menace" which is threatening our position as women workers' (Liddington, 402)-sitting down to thunderous applause. Recently widowed, she was invited in 1934 by a new pro-communist Women's World Committee Against War and Fascism to join a small delegation to Nazi Germany to visit four women prisoners; on her return she told about the grim realities of Nazism. A supporter of the Popular Front in the late 1930s, in 1940 Selina Cooper joined the more marginal People's Convention initiated by the Communist Party; she was soon expelled from the Labour Party, so finding herself for the first time in half a century cast outside mainstream labour politics. It was a bitter blow.
Selina Cooper died at home on 11 November 1946 shortly before her eighty-second birthday, and was cremated three days later. The memorial meeting was attended not only by Coombe and Cooper relatives, but also by Nelson's mayor and councillors, fellow magistrates, and members of the public assistance committee, Nelson Labour Party, women's co-operative guilds-and even one or two from the far-off Edwardian days of the Nelson Women's Suffrage Society.
Memories of the campaigns of Selina Cooper and her associates faded rapidly after the First World War, overlain by the more dramatic suffragette narratives of the Pankhursts. However, her papers were preserved by her daughter, and rediscovered in 1976; and in 1996, to mark the fiftieth anniversary of her death, a memorial exhibition and lecture about Selina Jane Cooper were organized in Nelson.
Jill Liddington
Sources J. Liddington, The life and times of a respectable rebel: Selina Cooper, 1864-1946 (1984) + Lancs. RO, Cooper MSS + Oral history interviews with Mary Cooper, Tameside Local Studies Library, Stalybridge, Manchester Studies Oral History Tapes + J. Liddington and J. Norris, One hand tied behind us: the rise of the women's suffrage movement (1978) + b. cert. + d. cert. + CGPLA Eng. & Wales (1946) + parish register (baptism), Callington, Cornwall, 25 March 1870
Archives Lancs. RO, corresp., papers, and photographs, PDX 1137 SOUND Tameside Local Studies Library, Stalybridge, Manchester Studies Oral History Tapes, Mary Cooper tapes
Likenesses E. Buck, photograph, Women's Library, London [see illus.] · photographs, Lancs. RO, Cooper MSS, PDX 1137 · portraits, Lancs. RO, Cooper MSS, PDX 1137
Wealth at death £423 4s. 11d.: administration, 7 Dec 1946, CGPLA Eng. & Wales
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The floggings will continue until morale improves!
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The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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Later... I love a good Little Known Fact'. I heard the curator of embroidery at the V&A this morning on Today explaining why the term 'Bayeux Tapestry' is a misnomer. Tapestries are woven and the Bayeux is embroidered. It'd make a good pub quiz question.
I heard Lord MacAlpine expressing sympathy with the man who mistakenly identified him as his abuser. That's a nice gesture and means that he needn't fear any repercussions. Not so for those who tweeted on the subject, his solicitor made it clear that those who don't apologise will be pursued, probably in court. Good!
I heard Lord MacAlpine expressing sympathy with the man who mistakenly identified him as his abuser. That's a nice gesture and means that he needn't fear any repercussions. Not so for those who tweeted on the subject, his solicitor made it clear that those who don't apologise will be pursued, probably in court. Good!
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"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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Stanley thank you for the piece about Selina Cooper. Reading it reminded me that no matter what I might think about today's election I should put my walking boots on and get down to Kelbrook to vote!
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Very interesting, thanks for the posting. It makes me wonder what arguments were advanced by the opponents of womens' suffrage.
When I read stuff like this, and see photos of Lancashire women in clogs and shawl, I don't think there was much difference between then, and modern day Afghanistan in the treatment of women.
When I read stuff like this, and see photos of Lancashire women in clogs and shawl, I don't think there was much difference between then, and modern day Afghanistan in the treatment of women.
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Fire logs from lawn clippings? Yes! An invention of the US Agricultural Research Service. Besides lawn clippings the logs contain a lot of vegetable oils or veg waxes so it sounds to me more like getting rid of lawn clippings by burning them in biofuel! Here is the story...
http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/n ... gs1112.htm
http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/n ... gs1112.htm
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David, you are right. The funny thing is that prior to the industrial revolution women had far higher status, after all, if the man was ill she had to do the ploughing! It almost seems as though the repression of women was an essential prerequisite for the industrialisation to succeed.
What grabbed me this morning was having to delete or edit 14 posts put up by spammers. I've left Wendy and Ian to do the technical bits of tracking and deleting because I don't fully understand it. I may have lightened their load by doing the deleting, it all takes time! Whyperion actually replied to what was obviously a scam (part of it in Serbian). Please don't do this if you find one. Just leave it alone and the street sweepers will deal with it and the spammers. Replying could trigger off more attacks. And before anyone says it, yes, I replied to one the other day but in my defence it wasn't clear that it was anything but a normal first post.
What grabbed me this morning was having to delete or edit 14 posts put up by spammers. I've left Wendy and Ian to do the technical bits of tracking and deleting because I don't fully understand it. I may have lightened their load by doing the deleting, it all takes time! Whyperion actually replied to what was obviously a scam (part of it in Serbian). Please don't do this if you find one. Just leave it alone and the street sweepers will deal with it and the spammers. Replying could trigger off more attacks. And before anyone says it, yes, I replied to one the other day but in my defence it wasn't clear that it was anything but a normal first post.
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"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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I was so busy deleting spam I forgot to comment on the latest arrests in the various paedophile investigations. I think the most surprising one was the bishop and the priest. Commenting on the arrest of Dave Lee-Travis a police spokesman said that they are getting about 50 new allegations a week. I have to wonder where all this will end, it seems as though some sort of dam has broken and the abused at last know that they are going to be listened to. Painful all round but this must be a good thing.
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"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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Comrade, there will be some who see this as a way of making a fast buck. There was a physical abuse investigation around a residential school on Merseyside in the 90's. A man from Burnley who had been placed there complained to the police that he had been abused. The police spoke to me and I checked the records which showed that on the dates he claimed to have been beaten he wasn't at the school - 2 of the dates even pre-dated his placement there. He was lucky not to have been prosecuted. Nolic
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Wouldnt have thought a true victim of any kind of abuse would be after money. They just want the opportunity to unload the guilt and shame, be acknowledged and believed, and hopefully see justice done by punishment of the offender. Of all of these, I would put acknowledgement and being believed first in terms of healing power.
We seem to be going through the same sort of situation here with all sorts coming out of the woodwork and facing public scrutiny.
I don't think it will ever end. I think it is still going on today...
We seem to be going through the same sort of situation here with all sorts coming out of the woodwork and facing public scrutiny.
I don't think it will ever end. I think it is still going on today...
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I take your point Colin. What a sad world we live in! Mind you, hopefully the police will be able to weed out the opportunist and help the genuine cases get some closure.
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The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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I thought members should know that we are under a massive spam registration attack and if you see any strange topics or replies to existing posts please ignore them. The moderators are trying to keep the streets clean but it's a flood. I have talked to Doc and he is going to disable automatic registration on the site. We will then have a rethink and come up with an answer to the problem. We won't lose by this because there are so few genuine registrations.
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"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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Why not introduce a subscription/joining fee?
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And be accused of bullying? The problem isn't fees Maz, it's the fact that these auto spammers have the upper hand and can ruin a site if they are not stopped. As I write they are pouring in and we are doing our best to stem the flow and keep the site open. Donating to the site has always been voluntary and as far as I'm concerned it can stay that way. Mind you, I'll keep reminding people that the server has to be paid for. In the past Doc subsidised it, we are now in a position where he has enough donations to cover the costs and we want it to stay that way.
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"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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OK. Though the donation system doesn't make sense to me. If we were all reduced to an annual fee I could accept that. Don't see it as bullying ( I see getting aggressive about 'donations' more bullying, especially the way it has been done up until now). But that is just my opinion...
Guess you will have to introduce a delay period between joining and submitting first post?
Guess you will have to introduce a delay period between joining and submitting first post?
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I think the only delay will be in administering the initial email but we aren't yet decided on how that will work.
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"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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"Beware of certitude" (Jimmy Reid)
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
Old age isn't for cissies!
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RAF Sea King SAR helicopter flying at angels few around the Victory Park/Bracewell area, HRH PW perhaps?
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Re: WHAT ATTRACTED YOUR ATTENTION TODAY?
Maz, victims come from all across the social strata and have differing motivations in lots of areas. The potential of compensation might be a spur to make those who would not normally have spoken out come forwards ....... but it does encourage opportunists. Nolic
"I'm a self made man who worships his creator."
Re: WHAT ATTRACTED YOUR ATTENTION TODAY?
I think most members would not object to a registration fee, especially if it keeps undesirables off the site.
Say only a little but say it well.
Re: WHAT ATTRACTED YOUR ATTENTION TODAY?
Add to the mystery an Emergency Response Unit, a Mountain Rescue unit, and four Mounted Police Officers!!
Thomo. RN Retired, but not regretted!
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PanBiker
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Re: WHAT ATTRACTED YOUR ATTENTION TODAY?
All available services mobilised? A bit diverse though, training exercise perhaps?
Ian
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Whyperion
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Re: WHAT ATTRACTED YOUR ATTENTION TODAY?
Must be the effects of an elected police commissionar , said on ITV news they would make an impact on anti-social behaviour.
Seriously , Google
http://www.tvballa.com/2012/11/walker-b ... ch-missing
Source: The Lancashire Telegraph, Nov 16 2012, 5:42am CST
A MAJOR search has been launched for a 70-year-old walker who has not been seen since leaving home yesterday morning. John Rayton is understood to have been walking in Gisburn but has not returned to his Preston home.
See , newshound would have let us in on this.
Seriously , Google
http://www.tvballa.com/2012/11/walker-b ... ch-missing
Source: The Lancashire Telegraph, Nov 16 2012, 5:42am CST
A MAJOR search has been launched for a 70-year-old walker who has not been seen since leaving home yesterday morning. John Rayton is understood to have been walking in Gisburn but has not returned to his Preston home.
See , newshound would have let us in on this.
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PostmanPete
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Re: WHAT ATTRACTED YOUR ATTENTION TODAY?
I notice that 79 people have joined the site today...! No doubt that 99 or possibly 100% of them are the spammers that have been talked about recently. It must be a nightmare for the moderators to keep up with the task of getting rid of them.
Some forums I have joined need you to contact the owner with a request, along with your reason for wanting to join before you are admitted. Maybe this could be implemented on OGFB?
Some forums I have joined need you to contact the owner with a request, along with your reason for wanting to join before you are admitted. Maybe this could be implemented on OGFB?
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PanBiker
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Re: WHAT ATTRACTED YOUR ATTENTION TODAY?
You are correct in your thinking there Pete. 100% about 25% of them with posts in threads, almost certainly automated and we will be looking at methods of vetting member registrations shortly. Bit of a full time job holding back the hoards today.
Ian