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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 10:23
by Big Kev
Armour piercing?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 11:24
by ROD LOWCOCK
chinatyke wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 01:04
chinatyke wrote: 04 Feb 2020, 11:42 A butter churn handle?
Second thoughts. If you had two of them you could lay rods between them and use them as a drying rack.
Just ignore me, I try hard!
:good:
That's like showing a piece of marble and saying it's Venus de Milo. :biggrin2:
I'm chinatyke's brother Rod. Why does he want to lay me down and use me as a drying rack?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 11:37
by plaques
Early anti-tank rifle. Later ones usually had a hand grip stock and tripod mounted. Bullets were made with a steel core for armour piercing. High velocity preferred to bore diameter hence long barrel.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 13:21
by Big Kev
ROD LOWCOCK wrote: 29 Mar 2020, 11:24
chinatyke wrote: 05 Feb 2020, 01:04
chinatyke wrote: 04 Feb 2020, 11:42 A butter churn handle?
Second thoughts. If you had two of them you could lay rods between them and use them as a drying rack.
Just ignore me, I try hard!
:good:
That's like showing a piece of marble and saying it's Venus de Milo. :biggrin2:
I'm chinatyke's brother Rod. Why does he want to lay me down and use me as a drying rack?
:laugh5:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 14:37
by chinatyke
Welcome Rod. Nothing happening in your neck of the woods?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 14:54
by Tizer
Kev was right with armour-piercing and Plaques followed up correctly with early anti-tank rifle. Panbiker gets a mention too because I think it had its origin in the elephant gun as he suggested. Now, can you identify the rifle further? :smile:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 15:16
by Tripps
Tizer wrote: 29 Mar 2020, 14:54 Now, can you identify the rifle further?
Was it called Kevin? :smile:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 17:01
by plaques
It looks like a german T-Gewehr.

Not that I'm an expert on this subject but the last time you posted the 'tank mask' I just happened to be in Barlick library and saw a book The Anti -Tank Rifle by Steven L Zaloga. and thought that'll make some good bed time reading. Now with the libraries closing down its stuck on my shelf.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 17:27
by PanBiker
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The first and only Anti-Tank rifle (15,800 produced) in WWI, must have been captured.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 17:37
by Big Kev
Tripps wrote: 29 Mar 2020, 15:16
Tizer wrote: 29 Mar 2020, 14:54 Now, can you identify the rifle further?
Was it called Kevin? :smile:
:laugh5:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 02:27
by Stanley
P has got it right. Worth pointing out that whilst for propaganda reasons these were called 'anti tank' They would only penetrate light plate at close range and were only of any use against lightly armoured cars.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 09:05
by Tizer
Plaques is correct, it's a Mauser 1918 T-Gewehr anti-tank rifle, bolt action, single shot, high velocity firing a 13.2 mm TuF round designed for use against tanks. LINK Plaques can tell us more now that he's in lockdown with a book on the subject! :smile: They were definitely effective against more than lightly armoured cars and tank crew feared them. This quote from the Royal Armouries web site: `The boiler-plate steel armour of the first British tanks was unhardened and only 8 to 15mm thick. It was easily penetrated by the T-Gewehr at up to a range of 300 metres. The outer portion of the 13.2mm bullet would be stripped away on impact but the steel penetrator would continue on, tumbling and travelling sideways into the interior of the tank. Metal spalls from the tank's own armour would add to the destruction inside.' LINK French tanks were only thinly armoured throughout the war and designed for speed rather than protection.

The photo shows New Zealand soldiers celebrating having captured an example of the gun.The image is from a book titled `Armoured Warfare in the First World War 1916-1918' by Anthony Tucker-Jones, published by Pen & Sword Books. An excellent book on the development of the tank in WW1. Next please! :smile:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 12:55
by Stanley
Thanks for educating me, I didn't know they could penetrate that thickness. :good:

Image

What's going on here?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 13:42
by Gloria
Someone trying to light a fire?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 14:35
by PanBiker
It could have been a throwing stick but it's at the pointed end so probably not that. :confused:

The shorter piece looks like bone or part of an antler.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 15:36
by Tizer
Stripping bark from a tree branch?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 20:30
by Marilyn
Hand made billiard cue.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 02:34
by Stanley
It is antler, and yes, something is being done to the branch. Not stripping bark or a billiard cue.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 05:55
by chinatyke
Is it one of those strange musical instruments they have in the Land Down Under?
Or...
Is it one of those musical instruments they have in the strange Land Down Under?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 07:17
by Stanley
No. I can see why you thought that. Nothing to do with music.
You need a clue, let your minds wander round Porridge, the TV series.....

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 08:17
by Cathy
Is it a Barrow handle?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 08:25
by Stanley
No Cathy, sorry. I have to warn you that was a very oblique cue!

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 08:28
by Cathy
Oh, for some reason I was thinking Open All Hours. Will have another think.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 08:33
by PanBiker
Is he sharpening a long throwing arrow?

Clue: Norman Stanley Fletcher. :geek:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 08:38
by plaques
How about this for 'oblique' clues. Porridge = Ronny Barker =Fletcher = Maker of arrows.

putting the point on a throwing spear.

Just scrolled down and seen PanBikers answer. Spooky. :surprised: