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Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 06 Nov 2018, 11:19
by Tripps
Stanley wrote: ↑06 Nov 2018, 04:40
I hope so David because that is what I have gone back to! Have reduced water intake though, I get enough fluids from my tea.
Good man.
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Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 04:37
by Stanley
Thanks David......
By the way, cutting back on the coffee by half was a good thing, I am not dithering now, just occasionally shaking with fear!
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 09:30
by Tizer
I stopped drinking coffee in the 1980s and wished I'd done it earlier.
In recent days I mentioned about buying bread that we were told had no spices and then finding it had mustard in it. Now this...
`Supermarket bakeries 'unclear on allergies'
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Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 08 Nov 2018, 04:25
by Stanley
I only have one dose of coffee a day Tiz.
The allergy warnings. A very worrying report, especially for anyone like you Tiz who has known sensitivities that may not be technically allergic responses but simply irritation. What puzzles me is why there are any exceptions to the need for labelling and clear warnings. The offending ingredients are just as harmful even if cooked on the premises by hand.
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 08 Nov 2018, 09:27
by Tizer
Another problem now is that the ingredients are often ready-mixes bought in by the bakeries; and some of the components of those may be also ready-mixes bought in by the ingredients company. Plenty of scope for mistakes in labelling and for `It wasn't my fault guv' responses to incidents.
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 04:28
by Stanley
I have noted that in the case of Pret and their problems. When does 'hand-crafted' and 'made on the premises' become cake mix territory? Take an imported mix, add water and bang in a pre-programmed appliance that beeps when it has finished isn't my idea of hand crafted. Some tighter definitions in the regulations are needed.
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 06:49
by Stanley
See
THIS BBC report on the new figures from the latest National Diabetes Audit for 2016-2017 which contains information on cases of type 2 from 95% of GP practices in England and Wales, as well as numbers treated in specialist paediatric units. It found that a total of 6,836 children and young people aged under 25 were being treated for the condition. Ten years ago none were known.
It's almost certain that this is a consequence of obesity and bad diet and the main culprit is thought to be Take-Away food. Can you wonder why I bang on so much about the terrible 'Just Eat' campaign?
No use looking to the government. Previous experience tells us that they will not take any significant action against industries that are employers and generators of profit and taxes. Economic matters trump the health of our children.
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 07:56
by Wendyf
Don't you think that it's the constant availability of food and sugary drinks plus the idea that you need to feed regularly to keep up your energy levels rather than take away food itself? These children are having their metabolism wrecked at a very early age with constantly raised insulin levels making their cells resistant and playing havoc with hormones that regulate hunger. They don't stand a chance!
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 08:19
by Marilyn
I do agree, Wendy. But kids are always hungry ( especially teenage boys) and there are only so many times a day you can dole out peeled carrots, celery sticks and tap water!
I used to pull my hair out some days trying to fill my son with healthy food. We couldn't afford takeaways, but he could still eat his way through the fridge and in to the pantry wall before dinner. ( lucky he was a kid who loved veg and fruit).
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 08:30
by Marilyn
I think it is a two pronged thing. Kids used to move more when my son was a teenager. He was always riding his bike or doing physical stuff. We used to walk a lot too. He walked or rode his bike to school. Nowadays it is big 4 wheel drives parking as close to the school as possible, unloading kids. Young couch potatoes!
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 08:53
by Wendyf
Not just celery sticks and carrots Maz, it could be cheese or nuts or a drink of milk which would keep them going for longer.
I know, people have dairy and nut allergies.......I did say "could".
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 09:13
by Marilyn
Of course. But you know what I mean. Teenage boys seem to eat their body weight every day. I used to make all sorts of low sugar muffins, carrot cakes etc. I was pretty clever back then. I could hide "five a day" in anything!
We used to run up gullies and hills with the dog every day. And we always had the beach and swimming. He played Badmington twice a week. Kids just don't move enough today.
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 12:54
by plaques
Marilyn wrote: ↑22 Nov 2018, 08:30
Kids used to move more when my son was a teenager.
You have probably hit one of the obesity drivers here Marilyn. The statistics infer that as activity decreases then obesity increases.
Obesity Study. The numbers also show that in children those from deprived areas are more likely to be obese. Overall quite an in depth report but doesn't break it down to include ethnic minorities which may point to cultural attitudes towards bigger children.
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 22 Nov 2018, 13:47
by PanBiker
I used to walk to and from school four times a day. Mum worked from home so I always came home for my dinner. 1/4 of a mile or so from home to infant and primary at Gisburn Road and about 1/2 a mile each way from Barlick Modern. So at least a mile a day from four to eleven and a couple of miles each day once at secondary school. Gym or sports twice a week, 3.5 mile cross country usually a couple of times each week before anything else. Couple this with laiking out after school, we used to roam miles in the country and round the becks and streams, best trout holes were always the furthest away.
Not the same sporting activity at school now and lots of kids that could walk are dumped via car. The only kids that came in cars or buses were the ones that lived out of town any distance, certainly at secondary school plenty walked from Kelbrook, Brogden, Salterforth and Earby.
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 23 Nov 2018, 03:05
by Stanley
Some very good reasoning in those posts and I agree with all of you. Perhaps I was letting my hatred of fast food poke through a bit too much. I admit there is a need for something like fish and chip shops or good bakers but some people live exclusively off take-aways and ready meals and it gets imprinted on the kids. Not a good thing.
I see kids on their way to school in the Pioneer Store buying their breakfast.... Evidently they are given money to do it. You wouldn't believe what they are eating and drinking! (Or perhaps you would...)
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 08:26
by Big Kev
I have a copy of Tom Kerridge's Dopamine Diet cookbook and have been making good use of it. I am looking to adapt one of the recipes, to make a lamb hotpot, and will be using sliced turnips for the topping. Anyone had any experience using turnips as a potato substitute? Will the cooking times be the same as potato? I don't want to end up with a pot full of mush

Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 08:48
by Wendyf
Never tried them sliced Kev. If the are the smaller white ones I would imagine they would cook more quickly but older ones, more swede than turnip, can be quite tough. No idea really!

Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 09:03
by Big Kev
Wendyf wrote: ↑28 Nov 2018, 08:48
Never tried them sliced Kev. If the are the smaller white ones I would imagine they would cook more quickly but older ones, more swede than turnip, can be quite tough. No idea really!
I'll do some experimenting

There are quite a few things I have tried and changed, cauliflower pizza base wasn't very successful, I've moved onto pizza omelettes now, much less work.
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 09:19
by Wendyf
No, we didn't do well with the cauliflower pizza base but Col has perfected his fathead pizza and it's delicious!
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 09:42
by Big Kev
Wendyf wrote: ↑28 Nov 2018, 09:19
No, we didn't do well with the cauliflower pizza base but Col has perfected his fathead pizza and it's delicious!
Sounds interesting...
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 12:36
by Tizer
Big Kev wrote: ↑28 Nov 2018, 08:26
I have a copy of Tom Kerridge's Dopamine Diet cookbook and have been making good use of it.
When Mrs Tiz saw that she said "He must be cooking Brain's faggots!"
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Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 13:26
by Big Kev
Brain's faggots are great, I bring them to work with me for tea

Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 13:26
by Wendyf
Big Kev wrote: ↑28 Nov 2018, 09:42
Wendyf wrote: ↑28 Nov 2018, 09:19
No, we didn't do well with the cauliflower pizza base but Col has perfected his fathead pizza and it's delicious!
Sounds interesting...
https://www.dietdoctor.com/recipes/fat-head-pizza
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 14:33
by Big Kev
Re: WE ARE WHAT WE EAT
Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 04:07
by Stanley
Kev, turnips, like young swede and sweet potatoes cook at about the same speed as carrots cut the same way. Faster than spuds but not as fast as sprouts.
I'm gradually learning that cooking veggies before putting them in the slow cooker is a mistake, they go mushy! (I know, but I'm a slow learner!)
I keep experimenting with deep fried veggies, they invariably turn out OK and I like the crunch.