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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 13 Jan 2021, 09:40
by chinatyke
Not sure, but I have vague memories of combing flax using teal heads?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 13 Jan 2021, 09:54
by Tizer
chinatyke wrote: 13 Jan 2021, 09:40 Not sure, but I have vague memories of combing flax using teal heads?
No ducks were harmed by China's post! I think he's referring to teasel heads being used for carding. :smile:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 13 Jan 2021, 10:27
by chinatyke
Thanks. I knew teal wasn't right, and I kept thinking thistle, but the right word wouldn't come to mind!

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 13 Jan 2021, 11:40
by Stanley
China. Teasels were part of the same story that introduced this machine.
Ken has hit the nail on the head, it's a 'flock shaker'. 'Flocks' was a by product of wool processing and was the fine fluffy residue. It was good when stuffed into a ticking bag and became a comfortable mattress. However it had a fault and clumped together in lumps. The cure for that was to take it over to the mill and have it emptied and the flocks 'shaken', a very rough carding process. The machine had a lattice bed called a 'willow' because it was originally made with willow rods and this acted as a sieve, any dirt or foreign bodies like insects falling out of the bottom of the machine.
Good one Ken and I thought it would go longer. Well done. Next one?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 13 Jan 2021, 11:57
by plaques
After the war Dad went back weaving then became a tackler so a lot of the 'tackler' talk rubbed off. When the shed closed down he finished his years as a school caretaker, janitor was a posher word. When his heart played up it became part of my routine to stoke the boilers early mornings and late evenings. Prior to getting married I lived next door to Harling & Todds, Butterworth & Dickenson's another couple of hundred yards away. You may say I grew up alongside looms. :geek:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 13 Jan 2021, 13:49
by Stanley
You remembered flock shakers.....

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Can you remember the name of this machine?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 13 Jan 2021, 19:22
by plaques
It was probably called 'Flossy' or 'Floozy' after the bits of fluff on the floor. No idea for what its purpose is, I'll possible guess at Flock Printing machine. pre-electrostatic?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 14 Jan 2021, 03:42
by Stanley
No Ken, primary process. Look at the extreme left corner of the pic for a clue.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 14 Jan 2021, 08:41
by plaques
I looked at them and thought they may contain the glue to bond the flock to. I have to say I definitely don't know, its over to the size 12 hats.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 14 Jan 2021, 08:45
by Stanley
What the machine is doing is taking multiple slivers from the carding machines and combining them all in a large package that is then ready for installing on the condenser mule. There is a specific name for it....

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 14 Jan 2021, 10:00
by chinatyke
A drawing frame? Or does it have a more specific name? I only worked on fabrics and not yarn or yarn production.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 14 Jan 2021, 10:46
by chinatyke
Just a thought: Is it sliver to rhyme with river, or sliver to rhyme with driver? I've always thought the first option was correct.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 14 Jan 2021, 10:57
by Gloria
chinatyke wrote: 14 Jan 2021, 10:46 Just a thought: Is it sliver to rhyme with river, or sliver to rhyme with driver? I've always thought the first option was correct.
I think that’s correct also.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 14 Jan 2021, 12:52
by Stanley
In textiles I have always heard it as driver. No it isn't a drawing frame. Can't think of a clue, I shan't keep you hanging on long.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 14 Jan 2021, 13:16
by plaques
After spending prime post lunch napping time with my pal google I'll offer up 'Roving Machine' which is far to complicated for me to explain so I'll offer this up. Roving

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 14 Jan 2021, 13:51
by Tripps
Despite growing up in Oldham, with a view of sixty plus mill chimneys from my bedroom window, I know next to nothing nothing about the cotton industry. I do remember though, the deaths announced in the weekly Oldham Chronicle where the words Byssinosis and Pneumoconiosis were common.
I watched that video in amazement. No people and no dust.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 03:36
by Stanley
That's very modern fine spinning and what I am asking you for is an older technology. It takes the sliver at the stage where it has just come off the carding machine and combines many cans into one large package which is loaded on the Condenser Mule and spun into soft yarn from that.

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Here's the complete machine at Spring Vale and it's called a Derby Doubler. (Nobody could ever tell me why!)
Next one?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 06:15
by Stanley
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Where is it?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 06:20
by Bodger
Brimham , Nidderdale ?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 07:20
by chinatyke
Interesting that I've seen somewhere on the internet that sliver rhymes with driver for textile use, but this pronunciation is considered archaic. I can't remember where I saw it but you are confirming this pronunciation.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 08:08
by Stanley
Bodge has torpedoed my latest mystery object as soon as it hit the screen. He's right of course, It's at Brimham Rocks.....
Another one?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 09:38
by Tizer
Well done, Bodger!

Here's a new mystery object. What is it?

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 12:21
by Stanley
Piece of deer antler that has been used as a tool?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 12:26
by plaques
Fossil Rhinoceros horn. Come across them all the time. :biggrin2:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 13:05
by Big Kev
Fossilized tooth?