OneGuyFromBarlick

Park Close quarry at Salterforth in 1948. Remember that the vast proportion of the rock out of here and the bricks made from the shale in the adjoining kilns, was all carted to the town by horses. This was true for most of the other quarries. Add coal and normal traffic and the town must have been swarming with horses. Then add carting the feed in, the muck out and the numbers of men employed and you begin to get an idea of scale. No wonder there were so many stables! (they all needed water as well.....)

This is an extract from a recent interview with the head of Weatherbys. He's sixth generation, and knows a thing or two about horses.

"But it is when discussing horses that he is the most enthusiastic. ‘Did you know there are eight times more horses in the UK now than when used as a method of transport?’ he asks. ‘British people love their horses. If there was a racehorse outside right now everyone would be going to look at it. It’s pretty sexy stuff.’

Can it be true ? - Put me down as a 'doubtful'

When I was farming in Whatcote in 1953 Sir Francis Wetherby had his seat at Whatcote Hall in the village. He was mad on horses and fox hunting. I helped out neighbour who banned the hunt from his farm where he lived alone to mount a vixen and her cubs on spikes on his lawn one night, he had just shot them. Sir Francis was at first delighted when he saw them but then was a trifle upset..... The whole family were blinkered on the subject of horses and it sounds like a dodgy statistic to me..... [It's annoying me that I can't remember the farmer's name.... He once shot a fox in front of the hounds as they were in full cry after it and heading for his boundary fence.... He was a bit of a character...]]

The old stables in Butts in 1982. All gone now.....

The Model Lodging House in Butts in the 1920s. Notice the gardens to the right of the building. When Arthur Briggs and William Duxbury bought the Model in 1932 for a workshop the area between it and the stables was a market garden serving the shops in Barlick. As trading methods changed, this became uneconomic and B&D bought the ground as an addition to the Model and it is now their stockyard.

We tend to forget that this building, now a garage, was also a model lodging house. There was a big demand in the town for sleeping accommodation not only for tramp weavers but for others who lived too far out of town to commute daily on foot. At a peak of about 24,000 looms, Barlick did not have enough resident workers to man the mills.

Somewhere that hasn't changed much in the last 12 years. Fernlea Avenue in 2003.

I see the old Occasion shop now has a new lease of life as a household linens shop. I wish them well, we still miss the old mill shop on Albert Road.....

A rare photograph of Harden Hall.... long since demolished. The people could be members of the Bulcock family who were there in the 1891 census.

Lovely pc Wendy, another age! Just think, from the dress it was almost certainly before the Great War. Everything was going to change..... This strikes me time and time again with these old pictures, they didn't know what was coming and many of the them would not survive the war and the Spanish Lady.

This pic of School Lane in Earby always gets me thinking. About 1900 I reckon and an idyllic scene with kids playing in the beck. But think on, those lads are just going to be the right age for cannon fodder in the Great War. Such a sad thought.
That's the value of these old pictures if you immerse yourself in them and have a think. Try to get into the frame of reference of the time. So much was going to happen, the world was about to change.... That's what history is all about.

Here's a good example. I don't know where I got this image from, all I know is that it is the Demaine family. Looks about 1930....? Does anyone know more about it?

I think this poor picture is of the old Wesleyan chapel on Station Road. Can anyone tell me if I am right?

Not sure about that one Stanley, I'm sure it had steps up to it at the front from Station Road.

I am unsure about it as well Ian. Perhaps someone will come up with a definitive answer for us....



Do the gate posts visible on this pic look the same? I can't see properly....

I took this in 2004 and was told that it was originally a Baptist Chapel at Townhead.

Was this wooden building in the foreground the Spiritualists? I hear it's redundant now but there is a covenant on its use that is blocking sale and development.

Gospel Mission Hall Stanley not the Spiritualists.

That's right Ian. I get mixed up with these different sects....



Many people in Victory Park will see this and never realise what it is. This is the clow that was used to empty the Old Coates Mill lodge for maintenance. The site of the lodge is now part of Rolls Royce car park. There's a lot of history embedded in this picture.....

This insignificant trickle of water into Stock Beck in Victory Park next to the footbridge into Crow Nest Road is the exit of the Bowker Drain. It used to feed Old Coates Mill lodge but when it was diverted by their cousin Billycock Bracewell it helped drive the Bracewell Brothers who ran Old Coates out of business. Everything is important! Keep your eyes peeled.....

Old Coates Mill in about 1890 just before it was demolished and replaced by the new Coates Shed on the side of the canal. Also now demolished....

PanBiker wrote:Gospel Mission Hall Stanley not the Spiritualists.

Were not the Duxbury's involved in acquiring the land and building for the Gospel Mission group?

I don't know....

The name 'Butts' has always intrigued me. The usual (and I think lazy) explanation is that this is where compulsory archery practice took place. I have an idea that this area and the hill between there and Skipton Road was a field system associated with the town where there were farms embedded in the centre of the settlement. There would definitely be one and this is a logical site for it, they favoured hill sides because they were well drained and relatively frost free as the cold air flows down them. If so, Butts could be a reminder of the names given to the strips. A common thing in other field systems. See the map of the Bracewell estate [on the site] for evidence of this....

In support of my theory about the name 'Butts' Here is the transcription I made of the text on the 1717 Estate Map of Bracewell. Lots to be learned from the names opf the allotments!

1717 MAP OF BRACEWELL.

ORIGINAL IS IN LANCS RECORD OFFICE AT PRESTON. (DDX 160/1)
PHOTOGRAPH OF MAP IN POSSESSION OF BRIAN ASHBY AT BRACEWELL.


NAMES ON THE MAP.

(Names read left to right starting in NE corner. Where field numbers are given the first of these is the number on the original map, the second, where given, relates to the 25” first edition OS map of 1892)

Title scroll of map: ‘A map of the manor of Bracewell in the West Riding of Yorkshire surveyed for Thomas Weddell Esq. By Joseph Dickinson’.

Tennants names and the characters which distinguish their closes on this map.
Mr Henry Robinson, A. Henry Brown, a. Christopher Varley, b. Thomas Croasdill,c. Thomas Roberts, d. Henry Atkinson, e. Henry Croasdill, f. John Hargrave, g. Lawrence Armestead, h. Robert Thornber, h. Robert Thornber, i. Steven Kendall, k. Mr William Brown, l. John Wilkinson, m. James Wilson, n. Zacheus Lawkland, o.

Notation on map:- ‘The township of Bracewell is entirely the lords but the rest of the adjoining estate at Stock lies intermixed with other freeholders as the map makes it appear. It lyeth about four miles from Skipton in Craven near Gisburn and the mount called Penley Hill’.

Anninum (Near Crook Farm?) 77 [Looks like a variation of ON ‘afnima’ = to seize. See Eng Field Names p 18. Later became ‘Aynhams’]
Parke 20
Great Far Field 29
Far Field 32
Far Hill 33
Yarleside 35
Thistleber 36
Mill Hill 37
Johnson’s Field 39
Johnson Field 38
Mill Hill 41
High Ing 40
Great Jug 42
Stockhill (no number)
Street 78
Haber (field system)
Butts
Back Setts
Sweet Gap Setts
Drakewell Setts
Long Setts
Croft Setts
Crocks
Gous (goose?)
Back Leys
Doles
Low Gous
Little Haber
Butts
Short Dole [‘dole’ = ‘lot’ = land auctioned annually to give income for the community. For poor relief?. See Hist Of Eng Field Names. Field. p.23]
Butts
Pease Croft
Middle Pease Croft
Heights
Near Pease Croft
Back Field
Stubleclon (?) Gate
Doles
Ing Doles
Back Garth Ends
Far Garth
Far Garth
Garth
Short Dole
Long Doles
Butts
Notation for Haber:- ‘Note, in the field called Haber we take all the freeholder’s measure for placing the lords land in its true position as it lyeth but we only put colours on the lords land and distinguish them to their several tenants by their different colours and also the letters that distinguishes all their grounds on the map the other freehold intermixed is left uncoloured and marked by a capital F. The Mither Close understand in like manner.’

Causey Bank 82
Causey Garth Head 81
Narrowber 79
Green Hill and Lingbiber 09
Mither Close
Lingiber Doles
Great Doles
Horton Butts
Arnsbur Doles
Stock Hill (pasture)
Bentay Pasture
Notation:- The Bentay Pasture and Stockhill are both pasture grounds belonging to several lords and their shares distinguished by so many gates apiece and counted of no more value than the gates will give besides defraying any encumbrances that may attend’

Audburr 25
Sawden Close 26
Crookber 19
High Tree Field 18
Lodge Hill 23
Six acres 22
Ten acres 21
New Ing 24
Crook Bottom 16
Barley Field Ing 17
Jack Croft 20
Hall Garth 4
Bridge Ing 5
Great Winsworth Field 15
Barley Field 14
Hague 13
Little Winsworth Field 6
Garth 3
Orchard 2
Fould Stead 1
Church Garth
Ashes 7
Nooke 52
Gilcal 51
High March 46
Low March 47
Far March 43
Near Cross Field 50
Holme 49
Hauber 65 189
Stock Town
Garth 66
Garth 67
Little Hauber 64
Grassinber 70 191
Crofts 69
Corn Cross Field 53
Hay Cross Field 54
Great Cross Field 55
Near Field 8
Middle Field 9
Far Field 10
Gleab Ing 11
Crookt Carr 12
Gilbiber 56
Gilbiber Carr 57
Stony Bridge 58
Car 59
Crper (?) 63
Turn Ing 62
Pease Lands 61
Trelse Holme 90
Banke 91
Holme 92
Great Cockber 98
Cockber Ing 97
Cockber 96
Low Ing 95
Laith Butts 93
Ing 94

Interesting stuff Stanley.