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Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 04:00
by Stanley
I think we lost this image when the site crashed.

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I know it is before 1936 because the new brick building at Ouzledale has not been built. I suspect the flood of 1932 filled most of the lodge with silt and I estimate the date as about 1900.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 01 Aug 2015, 04:15
by Stanley
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The old vicarage on Skipton Road. Now used as the Masonic Hall.
I came across an interesting fact about the vicarage; during the building of Wellhouse Mill the private well at the vicarage dried up and it was suspected that the building works were responsible. The vicar raised Cain but nothing could be done. Several months later the well started flowing again. Divine intervention?

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 02 Aug 2015, 05:43
by Stanley
I've just mailed David Whipp to draw his attention to something I have just posted on Steam Engines....

"The reason why the Ouzledale Mill belonged to the CHSC was that when they bought Butts Mill after the failure of the Bracewell hegemony, they found they owned Ouzledale as well. I believe that Billycock bought the mill because he wanted to tap the water resource of Gillians Beck at a high level. Unfortunately for him Clough Mill had the water rights on Gillians Beck right up onto the moor firmly sewn up. Bancroft Shed couldn't be built until James Nutter came to an agreement with the Slater Brothers who owned Clough in 1914. We tend to forget these days just how important water rights were. It's interesting to note that Pendle Council, who were gifted the Clough site by the last owner, Silentnight, probably still have control of those water rights...."

I don't know whether you can remember but a few years ago there was a proposal to develop Ouzledale Clough as a country park with quite possibly a water wheel producing electricity. If Gillians beck was tapped above the old Gillians Mill and piped down to Clough in an adequate plastic pipe they would have a head of well over 100ft, plenty to drive a very useful turbine and produce green electricity which in the long run could pay for the development and the costs of installing the turbine.

I hope someone reads this......

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 02 Aug 2015, 10:54
by Cathy
I've tried several times to save the pic of the old vicarage, but it won't let me, very strange.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 03:59
by Stanley
Cath, send me an email and I'll send you the pic. Don't know why it won't let you copy it...

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 06:09
by plaques
I've always used the 'import' function in Paint Shop Pro then trimmed the bits off.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 04 Aug 2015, 04:36
by Stanley
I just right click on the image and 'save as'.
I can't remember where I came across this but there was a theory that the reason for the Vicarage Well drying up could be that the builders of Wellhouse Mill exploited a sand bed near the junction of what is now Wellhouse Road and Skipton Road. They didn't carry building materials any further than they had to in 1853!

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 04 Aug 2015, 05:36
by Cathy
Thanks Stanley but I finally found the saved pics on my phone (4 in a row).
My phone had saved them at the beginning of all my photos for some reason, under the heading July 2006 8/07- 20/07.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 04 Aug 2015, 06:07
by Stanley
Good! I hate the thought of a deprived Cathy!

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 05 Aug 2015, 04:53
by Stanley
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We tend to neglect Gisburn. All right, it's just outside the manorial boundary but in many ways is important to Barlick. Here's the railway station in 1903, Picturesque because the railway in Gisburn was heavily influenced by the owners of Gisburn Park who even got the railway company to bury the railway in a tunnel where it crossed their land in front of the house. They owned the land the company wanted and so imposed their views. The railway facilitated the establishment and growth of the Gisburn Auction which was the major market between Skipton and Clitheroe. Beasts were loaded directly on to rail for transport as the line bordered the auction premises.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 06 Aug 2015, 04:24
by Stanley
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The toll bar at the head of the road down to Paythorne at Demesne on the Long Preston Road. This was before it was extended in the 1970s.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 07 Aug 2015, 04:37
by Stanley
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The toll house at Barrowford. Same hexagonal shape.....

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 08 Aug 2015, 05:56
by Stanley
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An old postcard of Yellow Hall at Kelbrook. The road to the right is of course the original road to Colne.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 04:42
by Stanley
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Kelbrook Show in 1977. Winston Horsfield shading his eyes. Small agricultural shows like this used to be common but have almost all died out now. A great shame.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 06:01
by Stanley
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Kelbrook Young Farmers was a thriving group in 1977. They competed at Harrogate as well, here's the sheep shearing. All my daughters were members and thoroughly enjoyed it, the activities varied from agricultural to public speaking competitions. Have a look at THIS for a 1947 pic of some of the members.....

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 05:16
by Stanley
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Young Farmers meeting in Elslack school in 1977. They caught 'em young in those days. Three of my daughters there, first , third and fourth from the right. What a contrast with interaction by text.....

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 04:44
by Stanley
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Long gone. The 'Nook' an old cottage at the end of King Street opposite the Legion Club.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 13 Aug 2015, 04:03
by Stanley
If you look in the LTP for Arthur Entwistle's transcripts you'll find that in the early 1930s his father bought a Tinman's Jenny and some other tools off the old man who lived in the end cottage. He was a tinsmith by trade and in his latter days did odd jobs for people in his home. The tinsmith is another forgotten corner, killed off by cheap pressed steel and later plastics. At one time it was an essential trade....

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The cottages were demolished in 1979. Hard to believe it was 36 years ago..... I must be getting old!

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 13 Aug 2015, 05:49
by Big Kev
Is it just me or have the last couple of posts appeared twice?

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 13 Aug 2015, 05:58
by Stanley
You were right Kev. Oneguy has been acting up a bit this morning. Not sure if it is the site server or at my end.... Some strange things happening as I post....

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 14 Aug 2015, 04:04
by Stanley
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One of the glories of an old town like Barlick that escaped much of the 20th century 'improvement' and redevelopment is that we still have very old corners of the town intact and embedded in the townscape. This end of King Street is a good example. These buildings are virtually unchanged from what they were over 300 years ago. It says something for the quality of the original build that they are still as good as when they were built. We have made many advances but not in the quality of materials used in building construction. Long may it continue.....

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 15 Aug 2015, 06:14
by Stanley
Always look in holes in the road! I hadn't got my camera with me this morning but noted a hole in Church Street dug for a new water supply to the old Greenwood's shop on the corner of Brook Street. There is no evidence of setts in the excavated face, only broken stone. This indicates that Church Street was never paved with setts but went straight from a water bound macadam road to tar spraying and chips and later tarmac.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 15 Aug 2015, 08:27
by PanBiker
Come and have a look at the hole at the top of Bessie St Stanley, it's getting bigger and has closed the road for over a week now. It started with a broken foul water pipe but tracing that back to the main sewer seems to have revealed a lot bigger problem. We have had up to six hard hatted hole watchers at one point this last week with camera vans and various diggers. Direct route down the back street has been blocked for the duration with a detour in place down Robert or Alice Streets onto Commercial St and up Bessie. Lads that delivered my kitchen yesterday were not impressed. They turned up in a curtain sider which they could only get in forwards to halfway up Bessie St. I had a full pallet of flatpacks and 2 worktops and a breakfast bar, it was chucking it down during the delivery as well, the two lads were soaked to the bone by the time they had done my drop. I bet it was interesting watching them backing it out!

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 16 Aug 2015, 04:32
by Stanley
Bit like the one at the top of butts which started out as a simple job to re-connect a blocked gulley grate but ended up with major repairs and holes 12ft deep! The thing that surprised me was the depth of the CI pipes they were dealing with, must have been something to do with levels.
There is a very large surface water drain that discharges into Butts Beck just below the Federation Street bridge. From the way it was discoloured during the Fernbank demolition I suspect it drains the whole of that area.

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The hole in Church Street. No setts under this surface.

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Jack inspecting the hole in Bessie Street....

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 17 Aug 2015, 03:55
by Stanley
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Pleasant View overlooking the top end of Valley Gardens. I'm a bit unsure of my memory but I seem to remember there was once a question about house numbering on this row on the old site and one of the theories put forward was that these houses were originally built as back to backs but have all been converted to through houses. Can anyone confirm this or am I talking about the next row?