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Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 06:38
by Stanley
All sounds good apart from Barry, I hope it isn't as serious as it sounds. As for the length of your stride, who cares? It's obvious you're walking far enough each day.
Good progress on the standard. I cut off the excess of the plug and polished the top of the casting. Then I drilled for the installation of the steam inlet pipe. I threaded the socket and made the 1/4" steam pipe and fitted it. I may cut its size down later but for the time being it will do. I am ready to make a tool to aid marking the face of both the standard and the cylinder for drilling the steam and exhaust ports. But that's for tomorrow. A good morning, progress without errors! That'll do me.
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 07:55
by Sue
PanBiker wrote: ↑16 Oct 2022, 21:46
Sue wrote: ↑16 Oct 2022, 06:40
It seems I do 4.4 miles to the 10 000 steps, which means both of the last two days just pottering around , walking back and forth to train stations and hotels I have done well over the 4.5 miles each day. I was more than surprised.
That equates to an average of just over a 30" stride.
Just checked the calculations. They are correct for the readings I got. However Ed suggested that my footpath app may be affected by the buildings bouncing the signal and giving a higher mileage reading .It happens when he does a preplanned route that ends up longer than expected. So when we go on the moors I will recalibrate. I think the assumption is 10000 is 4 miles. In fact Ed and I laughed about my result yesterday morning, wondering just how small an average step is ! The large mileage was something we discussed and tried to explain. Bouncing signal was our conclusion.
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 08:24
by plaques
Sue wrote: ↑17 Oct 2022, 07:55
Just checked the calculations. They are correct for the readings I got. However Ed suggested that my footpath app may be affected by the buildings bouncing the signal and giving a higher mileage reading .It happens when he does a preplanned route that ends up longer than expected
I don't pretend to know much about bouncing signals but it sounds a bit improbable. A 30 inch stride is big and at over 6ft tall with long limbs its even a good stride for me. I'd go for the much simpler explanation. Steep hills and rough ground shorten your stride and according to that Greek chappie Pythagoras it all depends on the ups and downs. Something to do with hyppopotami.

Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 08:54
by Sue
As for the length of your stride, who cares? It's obvious you're walking far enough each day.
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Exactly Stanley I have still done 12000 plus steps each of the last three days
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 08:55
by Sue
plaques wrote: ↑17 Oct 2022, 08:24
Sue wrote: ↑17 Oct 2022, 07:55
Just checked the calculations. They are correct for the readings I got. However Ed suggested that my footpath app may be affected by the buildings bouncing the signal and giving a higher mileage reading .It happens when he does a preplanned route that ends up longer than expected
I don't pretend to know much about bouncing signals but it sounds a bit improbable. A 30 inch stride is big and at over 6ft tall with long limbs its even a good stride for me. I'd go for the much simpler explanation. Steep hills and rough ground shorten your stride and according to that Greek chappie Pythagoras it all depends on the ups and downs. Something to do with hyppopotami.
The hills were not steep. And Inwill post an image
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 08:57
by Sue
Walk to the Indian restaurant.
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Look at tge squiggle at tge end. We didn’t do that , or the mileage
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 17 Oct 2022, 09:32
by Stanley
"Exactly Stanley I have still done 12000 plus steps each of the last three days"
So bugger what the app says!
I shall go to the chemist's now for my meds. It takes me 15 minutes to walk there and the same to come back.

Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 04:08
by Stanley
I could easily miss the shed after oversleeping by over an hour. No worries, I am not rushing to catch up!
The forecast looks good so a midday walk and a sit watching the world go by seems to be on the cards. As for anything else, I'll take it as it comes.....
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 05:50
by Stanley
I did one small thing in the shed despite being up late, I went in and shortened the steam pipe on the standard instead of leaving it until later. Only a small thing but showing willing!

Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 06:54
by Sue
Morning
There is no doubt now that I have Bs cold, however I had a fairly decent nights sleep having taken a cold remedy before bed. This means I will not be doing my weekly visit to Wendy this week as a cold is the last thing she and Barry want. I will however drop off the 4 meals and soup this morning that I made for them yesterday afternoon. I shall where a mask, and stay long enough only to put the food in the freezer or fridge, wherever she wants it. Barry is back in hospital. I hope they get him sorted quickly. I did a covid test yesterday just to check it is a cold.
Otherwise I have no plans for the day apart from some ironing . Its pilates and yoga this evening but that depends on wether I can breathe adequately or not. Its due to be a nice day again but there will be little chance for a walk. Bob is out at the model engineers this afternoon, and I prefer not to walk by myself, well certainly not in the Dell or on the moors. I may do a loop round the houses and back.
Have a good day all.
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 10:20
by Sue
A nice brisk 3.5 mile walk this morning in 1 hr 15 minutes , on the moors, gives a recalibration of 4.3 miles per 10,0000. Which is 27 inches per stride. Obviously not correct, my stride is just over 18 inches, but of course we are not talking precision instruments here, but the calibration is pretty consistent and the footpath app is consistent. So as I only want to monitor an overall idea of what exercise I am doing for when I speak to my GP ( at last on the 8 th November) , i am happy with that.
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 10:37
by PanBiker
I would tend to follow the GPS based tracked result rather than one which is only based on the movement sensor in the smart watch. Mine is the same there is a definite disparity between my Fitbit watch and the GPS tracked app (Strava) that I use on the phone. I always reckon as a rough guide that 10,000 steps is about 3 miles.
I have used quite a few different GPS tracker utilities over the years for walking and they are all pretty accurate. Some of the "smart watches" aren't all that smart.

Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 11:55
by plaques
Thinking about the 'steps' disparity, (thinking is unusual territory for me). all these GPS gadgets depend on receiving time signals from three or four satellite timers. If the 'smart gadget' drops a signal from two or more it is guessing its position and may give bum values, being inside a building or a place that robs the signal may be enough to upset it. As PanBiker says its all down to the quality of your gadget.
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 14:02
by Sue
Its a cheap watch....i get what I paid for. I know about lost signals, there are some walks we do where we lose signals, todays walk was not one of them. As I said, it doesn’t really matter, I want reproducibility not particularly accuracy. I only did the comparison initially out of interest. I still think its amazing how much I walk just pottering around the house and garden. As for 10 000 steps, I was always led to believe from things that I have read and seen on TV that it was equivalent to 4 miles, may be I am wrong but It doesn’t really matter
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 14:18
by Sue
Wof course from the biological point of view the distance is irrelevant, it is the energy consumption of the body that maters and that is per muscular contraction and not per mile. As it happens working on my 18 ins stride my morning walk should have been 12320 steps , so as we have all said, the cheap watch is inaccurate, but I am still doing the exercise . I shall set my daily target on the watch to the 4 mile equivalent in steps ,
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 14:37
by Sue
All the inaequacies discussed plus the advantages. Mine is not the cheapest watch on the market but I am not going to buy a really expensive one as what it delivers is not where I am coming from. You decide what you want and make your choice
https://sussexperformancecentre.co.uk/h ... -or-watch/
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 14:46
by PanBiker
Sue wrote: ↑18 Oct 2022, 14:02
As for 10 000 steps, I was always led to believe from things that I have read and seen on TV that it was equivalent to 4 miles, may be I am wrong but It doesn’t really matter
No it doesn't really matter. I always just use any tracked walks for comparison of routes using the same device.
The workings out for roughly 3 miles is quite straightforward. If the average stride is about 18" that is half of one yard so 10,000 steps is equal to 5,000 yards. 5,000 / 1,760 = 2.840909090909091 miles. The effort required to cover the same distance of course depends on the terrain and in simplistic terms whether or not you put a hill in the way. It's still just short of three miles but is harder to do.
By the same calculation, if it was 4 miles that would equate to just over 14,000 steps.
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 18:49
by Sue
PanBiker wrote: ↑18 Oct 2022, 14:46
Sue wrote: ↑18 Oct 2022, 14:02
As for 10 000 steps, I was always led to believe from things that I have read and seen on TV that it was equivalent to 4 miles, may be I am wrong but It doesn’t really matter
No it doesn't really matter. I always just use any tracked walks for comparison of routes using the same device.
The workings out for roughly 3 miles is quite straightforward. If the average stride is about 18" that is half of one yard so 10,000 steps is equal to 5,000 yards. 5,000 / 1,760 = 2.840909090909091 miles. The effort required to cover the same distance of course depends on the terrain and in simplistic terms whether or not you put a hill in the way. It's still just short of three miles but is harder to do.
By the same calculation, if it was 4 miles that would equate to just over 14,000 steps.
Thats the more or less the calculation I did for my 4 miles and my watch is now set for 14000 steps, I shall ignore the mileage it gives. I too really only want comparisons and an indication of how much exercise I do per day. I use my walking app to track total mileage covered over a time period ( for our virtual walks) and like you say to compare lengths of walks. I wouldn’t use my watch for that. We only wanted a 3.5 mile walk today because of my exercise classes today. We judged it based on previous stored walks . Sadly my watch skipped settings tonight so I got no readings for my yoga class
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 02:34
by Stanley
I have a pedometer in one of the drawers somewhere. I used it religiously and kept records for a while and then decided I had better things to do with my time. I still did the walks....
I am up in good time this morning and will be in the shed making a little gizmo that will mark my port locations on the standard accurately. The forecast is dry but cloudy so no reason why I shouldn't have my normal walk and sit on the bench. I remember what Sue and David have said about the importance of doing these things every time someone speaks to me....
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 06:21
by Stanley
Later.... I have spent a productive hour in the shed.
The task was to make a tool with which to accurately mark the position of the steam and exhaust ports on the standard and the cylinder. (I guessed it last time and was lucky. I have taken the guess work out of it this time!) all self explanatory and note the knurling done for practical reasons but I'll admit David was in my mind! The pins are Loctited into place.
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 06:27
by Sue
Morning
My cold is progressing well

. At least I have had a decent nights sleep and now i am awake the streaming has returned....
Today we are off to Burnley market straight after breakfast to visit Patisserie Chanel , our friends Jon and Maryse. Maryse wants to return a jigsaw to me and we shall probably buy croissants for the freezer, some quiches and a slice of cake to share. Depending on the time we may have a coffee and a browse, possibly visit the fabric shop. We have to be back here by 12.00 noon as I an due in Delph for 1.00pm to meet my University friends, Sue and Jean for lunch. We usually we meet twice a year, but have not met , other than zoom, since December 2019. I shall be back mid afternoon and have nothing else planned.
I took the meals and soup round to Wendy for which she was very grateful to have some home cooked food. She ate one lasagne for her tea. Bob went with me as I had noticed the front door lock was sticking. He adjusted and ‘soaped’ the lock and it responded well. He says he will go back with the right sort of oil. The lock was hanging off the door and would not latch when you pulled the door from outside. It now does. Barry has spent a couple of days on a hospital ward and has received the medication needed for the DVT. He may be home today. I hope they don’t rush him to return home. Wendy is coping very well indeed and he needs to recover properly. I may buy some meat on the market and do a potato pie or two for them.
Have a good day all
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 07:04
by Stanley
Wendy and Barry are lucky to have practical friends like you and Bob..... Good stuff...
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 20 Oct 2022, 03:30
by Stanley
I shall have my hour in the shed and this morning will have to have a look at the cylinder.... Rain is forecast so I am making no promises about a walk later. Apart from that it's my normal day of gentle activity and then a sleep. That seems to work for me.....
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 20 Oct 2022, 05:03
by Stanley
I have to report that I shall not be in the shed.... The political news is so interesting. Remember I have been watching politics for over eighty years and what is happening at the moment is quite unique.
Re: Today I shall be Mainly...
Posted: 20 Oct 2022, 06:30
by Sue
Stanley wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 07:04
Wendy and Barry are lucky to have practical friends like you and Bob..... Good stuff...
Morning
We too are lucky to have friends as good as them . When Mum was really ill, indeed dying, and Bob worked away, Wendy was round to see me and support me immediately I phoned. They were wonderful to the girls when they were growing up and have been far more than just friends over the years.
This morning is art at Haslingden, I have no plans otherwise . It depends on my cold as I am at the very thick head stage. Bs pattern and fabric have arrived and my pattern has arrived from eBay. I may cut those out so I can take them to France with me next week. We have a rainy but warm 2 weeks forecast so only essential out door stuff will be done there as we close up. For the Winter. Here its due to be wet today I think
Have a good day all