DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Post by **Bodger** » 25 May 2012, 08:26

" plants" why a natural plant and a manufacturing plant ?, re the former, did you ever see a plant called " piss in bed" there very common as a weed

Post by **Stanley** » 26 May 2012, 05:17

Good one Bodge. Funny how context changes meaning.
How about the word 'innards'?

Post by **Bodger** » 31 May 2012, 20:56

Re piss in bed = dandelions, back to local dialect ,
infected fingernail,= gathering, festering, or wicklow
frame,= frame thissen, to shape up, or improve oneself
smittle,= to give someone else a cold, measles etc.
some strange words in Yorkshire

Post by **Stanley** » 01 Jun 2012, 05:52

I've come across all of those but always knew the finger infection as a 'whitlow'. Depends on your hearing I suppose because I can't ever remember seeing it written down. Very close relation to 'stepmother's blessing'. 'Smittle' is a good one and used to be very common in Barlick.
Why is a hard seg (a strange word in itself) known as a 'corn'.

Post by **chinatyke** » 01 Jun 2012, 07:47

Segs were fitted to clogs in Lancashire. But I also used the word segs to describe the hard callouses on the palms of your hands.

I was born in Yorkshire to Yorkshire parents but grew up in Colne, Lancashire and worked in Barlick, Burnley and Rossendale, so sometimes the boundaries are blurred for me whether it is Yorkshire or Lancashire dialect.

Post by **Bodger** » 01 Jun 2012, 07:48

Used seg myself, did'nt it also refer to studs ? in repairing boots ?

Post by **PanBiker** » 01 Jun 2012, 08:15

Small heel and toe irons sold on a card at the cloggers or shoe repair shop. I seem to remember they were either on a red or blue card which had a selection of sizes on.

Post by **Stanley** » 02 Jun 2012, 04:37

The small studs with a serrated surface were used by the army on ammunition boots in my day and were known as hobnails but I have also heard them called 'segs'.

I still have some clog irons about my person. I used double irons and so had large and small sizes. These sole irons are Colne irons which were solid, not channelled. I still have the wooden pegs for filling the old nail holes and some clog nails. Problem is I no longer have any clogs!

Post by **Stanley** » 08 Jun 2012, 06:39

I was re-visiting a book I have on file manufacture and came across a term I haven't heard before. A file blank was called a 'mood' and the process of forging the blank was 'mooding'. I was reminded also of the use of the word 'tang' to describe the wedge shaped tail on the end of the file which drove up into the wooden file handle.

cloghopper · Post by **cloghopper** » 10 Jun 2012, 07:25

chinatyke wrote:Segs were fitted to clogs in Lancashire. But I also used the word segs to describe the hard callouses on the palms of your hands.

I was born in Yorkshire to Yorkshire parents but grew up in Colne, Lancashire and worked in Barlick, Burnley and Rossendale, so sometimes the boundaries are blurred for me whether it is Yorkshire or Lancashire dialect.

Same here, was born in Earby; but grew up and went to school at Burnley. The word 'segs' was used at home both for clog iron studs, boot studs, and callouses. Stanley's pics of clog irons brought back a lot of memories. As a youngster wore mainly clogs.
cheers,
cloggy

Post by **Stanley** » 11 Jun 2012, 05:58

Best things ever invented for your feet. In effect you were walking on a clean wooden floor all the time. I remember when I went in the engine house at Bancroft I went over to Doc Martin's because the clogs were dangerous and that was the start of hard skin on my heels. Another advantage of clogs with irons was that when you were around cattle they heard you coming and you didn't get kicked by startled cows.
By the way, I've never seen segs on clogs only irons or rubber irons.

Post by **Stanley** » 18 Jun 2012, 05:00

A common saying when I was a lad in Stockport came to mind yesterday. "Are you talking to me or chewing a brick?" Anyone ever heard it?
Another common saying during the war was what your mother said when you asked what was for tea; "A climb up the cupboard door!"

Post by **Tripps** » 18 Jun 2012, 08:14

Yes - I've heard it, but never used it - not very elegant is it? A bit too confrontational for me.

I've heard the other one too, but it had two parts - the second part was "and a jump at the cupboard door". My day will be ruined now trying to remember the first part.

Post by **chinatyke** » 18 Jun 2012, 08:50

Like when you asked "what's for pudding?"

Could it have been

A jump up the cupboard door and a bite of the knob.

Post by **Bodger** » 18 Jun 2012, 08:55

My mother during the war would give me a chicken sandwich, a" dry crust & pull it"

Post by **Tripps** » 18 Jun 2012, 11:39

After a great deal of thought - it might have been - "Two bites of the kitchen table, and a jump at the cupboard door."

Post by **Stanley** » 19 Jun 2012, 04:17

A sign of the times isn't it. Nowadays I suspect the answer to "What's for tea?" would be "What do you want?"
How about "If you go out in an East wind with a face like that it will stay that way!"

Post by **Stanley** » 20 Jun 2012, 04:57

A farming one for you. In this area Brucellosis which is contagious abortion in cattle and undulating fever in humans was always described as 'Pick'.

Post by **EileenDavid** » 20 Jun 2012, 07:57

Hey Tri pps

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Post Author: Tripps » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12[/quote]

We had a variation on this two bites onth kitchen door and a bite onth nob. My mam used another saying to catch as catch can.

Eileen

Post by **Stanley** » 21 Jun 2012, 05:28

No food had to be wasted, I can still hear my mother saying "It isn't burned, it's just well done!"

Post by **Stanley** » 22 Jun 2012, 05:41

Why do we refer to a gambling pot in a card game or the contributions to a drinking session as the 'kitty'.

Post by **EileenDavid** » 22 Jun 2012, 07:05

Isn't Kitte an old name for a barrell or pot in olde English? I have read that for safety from burglary money was hidden in a slit in the back of a cat (like diamond smuggling in the film Blood Diamond) when the robbers caught on farmers used their pigs hence as in piggy bank. Eileen

Here's one I'm Frit for the word frightened Eileen

Post by **Stanley** » 23 Jun 2012, 06:39

Interesting Eileen. Never come across that before. 'Frit' has echoes of the Blessed Margaret....

Post by **Bodger** » 23 Jun 2012, 08:12

In my part of the west riding, cattle were reffered to as "beasts", and their first milk after calving was beastings, used to make a great milk pudding, probably would'nt be allowed today, but i do'nt think it harmed me !!

Post by **Stanley** » 24 Jun 2012, 04:23

Bodge, Beasty Pudding, full of colostrum and antibiotics, often some blood as well. I had a chance to try it once but declined, couldn't fancy it.