DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

[EileenDavid]

Sounds a bit yucky to me. Eileen

[Stanley]

It wasn't bad at all Eileen. I tasted it but declined a plateful. Loaded with nourishment and anti bacterials. On most farms the first two or three day's milk went into the pig grub.

[Bodger]

Eileen, when theres a food shortage yucky dose'nt come into the equation.

[Stanley]

'Podger bar' for a tapered drift. Have a play with that one but don't get too rude!

[EileenDavid]

Eileen, when theres a food shortage yucky dose'nt come into the equation.

Never been affected by a food shortage but mam used to say I either ate with my eyes or smell. Never drank tea in my life the smell puts me off Eileen.

[Stanley]

We had to get used to strange stuff during the war. Never got on with Snoek or Whale meat. Quite liked horse meat though, it wasn't rationed. Mind you, we would have eaten anything!

[EileenDavid]

Bit like living here in France eh? Pig's cheek, Cheval or Bovine steak and tripe is very popular. They seem to eat every part of everything they eat. Not a great deal of veg though.

I love the old sayings mam had some beauty's what about "If the does owt for nowt do it for the sen"

Eileen

[PanBiker]

Part of what is regarded as the Tykes motto Eileen, it does not really depict Yorkshiremen in a particularly good light. As we all know the vast majority of Yorkshire folk are very amenable and generous. That lot over in Lancashire might disagree though!

See all, eer all, say nowt,
Eyt all, sup all, pay nowt,
an if ever tha does anything fer nowt, do it fer thissen.

[Stanley]

I have a mug with this motto on it, I looked it up and it would appear to originate in Northumbria.

If you work and do your best
You'll get the sack like all the rest.
But if you laze and bugger about
You'll live to see the job right out.
The work is hard - the pay is small
So take your time and sod them all.
'Cos when you're dead you'll be forgot,
So don't try to do the bloody lot.
Or on your tombstone neatly laquered,
Those famous words:
"Just Knackered"!

[Bodger]

"sothered", as in , tha must a bin fair clemmed, tha sothered thi snap, ie. to wolf food down

[EileenDavid]

My father's family were originally from Northowram and prior to that Bradford so I suppose I'm half Tyke Eileen.

[Stanley]

Never heard that one Bodge. Eileen, it will be the better half!

[EileenDavid]

Hey Stanley my mam didn't agree but she always said I was like my father. On the dialect and word meanings front ever thought what bread rolls are called in different parts of the country. Finger rolls in our area are known as Bunnies, Muffin's are round bread rolls not the American cake some of which are known as oven bottoms, in Bolton the same are known as flour cakes? What do you think. Eileen

[Bodger]

Cob is another, ie. a bacon cob

[Tripps]

I remember there was qute a lot on the topic of muffins and other bread rolls on the previous site. I seem to remember we got quite exercised on the topic of 'fly cemetery' too. I asked then had anyone heard of de Clerque's French muffins, but no one had, and there was nil on google. Things have changed now - several hits - this is the best.

Muffins I suppose a more 21st century version would be Ciabatta or Pannini.

[Stanley]

David, you're right! We ended up with more variations on the bread roll than you could poke a stick at. It all started with the difference between an oven bottom cake and a plain teacake I think.... Discuss!

[Bodger]

If memory is right, pikelets came into te equation ?

[Tizer]

Do people still say "I'm browned off" when they are bored or disappointed, and where does it come from? And likewise "cheesed off".

[Wendyf]

My hubby has been "browned off" for a few days since he discovered a leak in the diesel tank on the Nissan pick-up. He has managed to get the tank off and repair it, but since he was underneath it anyway he has been cleaning the rust off. I wont repeat the language that has been emerging, but when he comes in after a hard days chipping at the chassis the old grey beard is full of rust.
I have read that it originated in the RAF and refers to rust, but it goes back further meaning plant decay.

[Stanley]

I use the phrase but have no idea what the origin is. Brassed off as well?

[Tizer]

The comment about plant decay is interesting - the flesh of an apple `browns off' when exposed to air (oxidation of phenolic compounds forms tannins).

[Stanley]

I was thinking about Colin's diesel leak. (This is where I go a bit off piste... sorry) I can remember being puzzled about how something that was filled with oil could suffer internal corrosion. (Of course they can corrode from the outside as well) The thing that really triggered me off was a leak in the heavy casing of a fuel sediment bowl caused by pin holes growing from the inside about half way up the case. I looked into it and found that it was caused by electrolytic corrosion cells being triggered by the boundary between the water in the case and the diesel oil floating on top of this. (This started me off into a life-long interest in corrosion cells but that's another story.) The only guaranteed cure was to make the bowls out of glass or plastic. You can hold the process back by regularly draining the water out of the bottom of diesel tanks but it can never be stopped.
Sorry about that! Wonderful how OG can trigger the grey cells.....

[Stanley]

Came across a word in a 1931 novel set in Scotland and had to look it up. 'Mutch' a close-fitting linen cap formerly worn by women and children in Scotland [from Middle Dutch mutse cap, from Medieval Latin almucia almuce]

[Bodger]

Not wanting to move of topic, but "dutch cap" was a contraceptive device for the females in my youth

[cloghopper]

I remember there was qute a lot on the topic of muffins and other bread rolls on the previous site. I seem to remember we got quite exercised on the topic of 'fly cemetery' too. I asked then had anyone heard of de Clerque's French muffins, but no one had, and there was nil on google. Things have changed now - several hits - this is the best.

Muffins I suppose a more 21st century version would be Ciabatta or Pannini.

When I were a lad we used to call them baps or teacakes (if they had currants in). Muffins were the things with holes in that you toasted.
I'm afraid that the UK use of ciabatta and pannino are way out from the true meaning. A 'pannino' is the general Italian term for a soft bread roll; a ciabatta orginates from Puglia and is simply a flattish loaf. The true meaning of 'ciabatta' is what you would call a wooden soled slipper, or clog without irons.
cheers,
cloggy