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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 08:54
by Gloria
A hole alignment tool?? Used predominantly in the aircraft industry.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 10:42
by chinatyke
Gloria wrote:A hole alignment tool?? Used predominantly in the aircraft industry.
Or a hole depth gauge? Gauge isn't really the word I'm looking for. I mean a thing you can set and then test that the holes are that depth, a sort of test probe. I know what I mean! :grin:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 06:40
by Stanley
Gloria got it right first time. Used for aligning pre-drilled holes in the edge of a sheet of metal to hold them in place while the rivets were being put in. Riveting can stretch the metal and misalign the holes. In heavier work like boiler repairs or making, nuts and bolts are used for the same reason. This little gadget was easier and quicker. I shall have to think of a new one....

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 20:32
by plaques
While Stanley's thinking. where can you find this coat of arms. It may not be truly genuine but it fits the family that lived there.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 21:05
by PanBiker
The motto is the latter part of this:

"When you see her, you see the sky, and those on earth must lift their faces toward the stars."

I recognise the white hart but can't think for the life in me where I have seen it or whose family crest it is.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 07 Jan 2014, 05:15
by Stanley
White Hart was Richard II. Duchess of Cambridge has a coat of arms like this but three acorns instead of stars. Beyond that, haven't a clue!

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 07 Jan 2014, 08:42
by Wendyf
The Towneley family have the three stars, but I don't know about the white hart....is it Towneley?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 07 Jan 2014, 13:36
by plaques
Thanks PanBiker for the full quote. The nearest I got was "look to the stars".
Wendyf, Towneley was my first thought then being a god fearing person I remembered this in St Bartholomew's Church.
So next clue ..

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 07 Jan 2014, 15:27
by Wendyf
Ah, big clue. Is it Langroyd Hall?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 07 Jan 2014, 18:58
by plaques
Of course Wendy you're right. The Langroyd Hall or House as it was known. The date stone in the archway over the door is 1603.
Next Object please,

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 06:21
by Stanley
Image

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 08:11
by David Whipp
Section track for a wood train set... or segment of pulley wheel...

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 10:16
by Big Kev
Stanley wrote:Image
Is it a "former" from a pipe bending machine?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 09 Jan 2014, 05:23
by Stanley
I can see where you got that Kev, sorry, no cigar. It's precision made in bronze and some had white metal inserts.....

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 09 Jan 2014, 08:17
by Pluggy
Its part of a bearing, Crankshaft bearing for a small steam engine ?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 09 Jan 2014, 10:26
by plaques
I tend to agree with Pluggy. A bearing made of four sections that can be assembled and replaced with the shaft in place. Not so small a steam engine with a drive shaft of nearly three inches.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 09 Jan 2014, 12:55
by Pluggy
Small in this case means smaller than mill engine, which is Stanley's usual stomping ground. ;)

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 04:56
by Stanley
You're all thinking on the right lines and in one respect you're right, it is a type of bearing but not for a rotating shaft. I'll give it another day. Think steam, non-rotating and precise.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 07:53
by chinatyke
Part of a seal for a piston? The grooves held the packing?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 10:57
by plaques
Stanley, when I was talking about drive shafts I meant something like this.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 06:29
by Stanley
That's it P. You've got it exactly, one of the bronze sealing blocks from a US Metallic Packing. China, the grooves held the coil springs which kept the floating packing in contact with the piston road.
Now for the good bit where I can show off! I know that nobody likes a smart arse but you've got to let me have this one. Look at the pic again and you'll see a number stamped on the block, 21239. This is the job number and if a bloke had taken the trouble to get hold of the US Metallic Packing order books and copied them he would have instant access to all the details. Many years ago my good friend Geoff Shackleton helped me to do just that after I came across the records when I got US to come in and refurbish a packing on the Ellenroad engine. It was a big, long job but we did it. So. years later when I found this anonymous block of metal in some junk which was part of a workshop I bought all I had to do was go to the records and look the number up. This is part of the front high pressure US Metallic Packing made in March 1922 for the Trawden Mill Company, Black Carr Mill. Job number 21239. The piston rod was 3 3/4” diameter.
Impressive? I don't know what happened to the original records but Geoff and I have the copies. Incidentally they are fascinating because they record changes of company names, scrapping dates and in the case of marine engines the fate of the ships. There are a lot of entries for boats sunk in the war so the records can tell you far more than the bare technical details.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 13:39
by plaques
Probably one of the easiest "Mystery where is its". Consequently only those who don't know where it is need answer.
Hands up all those who thought it read "Free beer tomorrow for Nothing".
Now here comes the hard bit. Who is the plaque attributed to?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 14:09
by chinatyke
Is it the lock-keeper's cottage on L & L Canal between Foulridge and Salterforth? I'm thinking back over 50 years when one of my classmates, Barbara Cook, lived there with her family. In my mind the stone read Free Ale Tomorrow, so this might be a different place. Must get a new memory box!

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 14:32
by PanBiker
Its the Cross Gates pub near Blacko, not sure who the inscription is attributed to but I bet Stanley has it in his index.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 06:26
by Stanley
Should be Cross Gaits of course, 'gaits' is an archaic word for roads and it was a cross roads. I don't know who first put the sign up but one little known fact that John Clayton and I teased out was that there used to be a water mill just behind the pub. All part of the digging we did into the Whitemoor Map of 1580. Nothing in the index as it was Blacko and I had to draw a line somewhere!