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Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 11:10
by Tizer
The term `imposter syndrome' seems to have crept into our language and given people yet another opportunity to find something to suffer from. Wikipedia: `Impostor syndrome (also known as impostor phenomenon, impostorism, fraud syndrome or the impostor experience) is a psychological pattern in which one doubts one's accomplishments and has a persistent internalized fear of being exposed as a "fraud".'

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 11:40
by Tripps
That's interesting. I'd read it but not checked it out.

I came across the word 'demick' recently in the comments section of another website. Never seen it written before, (it doesn't look right :smile: ) and I haven't found it by google. It means a 'dud' . Reminded me of one particular person who used the word.
Anyone familiar with it?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 11:48
by Cathy
I found demick in the Urban Dictionary.
I’ll let you read it for yourself Tripps.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 12:00
by Tripps
Ah - thanks Cathy - and thanks for not including the link. I see why you did that. :smile:

I think that's a modern reincarnation, and not the word I was looking for.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 13:31
by chinatyke
We used to use the term "damaged and kept" when I was at Loveclough Printworks, or D and K. I don't know if that was the origin but I've heard the term demick referring to something that was D 'n' K or no good.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 21 Jan 2020, 03:51
by Stanley
Imposter syndrome. John Betjeman always said that the problem with being Poet Laureate was that he was sure people would 'find him out'.
'Demick'. I use the term frequently David in the sense of describing a dud. I think I first came across it in the army....
I like China's suggestion. Think US chalked on something or MT on an empty gas bottle.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 21 Jan 2020, 11:46
by Tripps
If you leave the final letter 'k' off - I thought it didn't look right - it's a whole different story. :smile:

One meaning is - pertaining to a group of people - and thus I guess is connected with endemic, epidemic and pandemic?

Also gets a mention hereManchester slang words not too far down the list. was that really the Brian Sewell ? Lots of other interesting words there.

I like this one -
From Meg, formerly Ashton-u-Lyne
My Nanny used the following expressions:
"Tha'd mither a boathorse till it dropt in t' cut" = your persistent complaints would make the horse draggin a canal boat fall into the canal.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 03:45
by Stanley
Est bin mon bin? Bin mon's bin and bins none bin seen sin.
Manchester slang, I have used many of them. For information....
'Lanry' for bleach. Trade name of household bleach sold in clear glass bottles and made by a firm run by two brothers, Allan and Harry Brown (gedit?) I think they were in Nelson. Bottles were favourites for bottling white lightning made in Barlick at Coates.
Later... It struck me that the word 'unsanitary' is being used in reports of the conditions in the livestock market where it is thought the present epidemic of a flu-like virus started. I didn't know the word existed, we always used 'insanitary', perhaps we are out of date! ( I have looked and 'unsanitary' is regarded as a North American usage....)

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 22 Jan 2020, 11:10
by Tizer
In the village where we used to live the farmers often built their own retirement bungalows and named them after themselves. One near us was Syan, named after Sydney and his wife Ann.

Tripps mentioned `boathorse'. My book on Severn trows goes into detail about the `bow hauliers', the men who pulled the trows up the river and canals before horses were used. As I read the book I automatically took the word bow to be pronounced as for a ship's bow because that's what they were hauling. Then I came to an explanation of the name. It's bow as in archery, not ship, because the men had a bow-shaped piece of wood on their shoulders attached to the rope. They leant forward and contemporary accounts say their hands were often touching the ground. They were a tough lot and lived and worked like the railway navvies of later times. When the `authorities' gave permission for horse paths to be made along the river these men revolted and the militias had to be called out to suppress them. When horses were first used some of the landowners insisted on keeping their fence or locked gate all the way across the path to the water's edge. The men driving the horses sometimes trained them to jump the fences. One piece of evidence given for this is Constable's painting showing it happening. And here it is, OG's bit of culture for today! The Leaping Horse (Notice also the eel trap under the bridge.)

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 03:29
by Stanley
Scotland was a good place for farm and house names. I used to go regularly to a farm called Mucky Duck, not spelt like that but that was what the Gaelic name sounded like. Another was called Drough Duil which meant 'the house without a view'.
As you dropped down into Drummore village on the peninsula near Stranraer the steep incline had been eased by creating an embankment. There were two houses on the left as you went down, the end one was called Sea View because it had one but the one further back shielded by the embankment was called 'Nae View' which always amused me.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 11:37
by Tizer
Here's a word for Tripps to put on his list - Jedigate
It's being used to describe this story: `Amazon battles Microsoft over military cloud' (See `Seen in the News')

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 25 Jan 2020, 04:29
by Stanley
I like it!

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 26 Jan 2020, 06:33
by Stanley
I don't know why but the word mug attracted my attention, it has so many meanings. THIS Wiktionary entry is worth reading.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 28 Jan 2020, 10:55
by Tizer
See today's Winged Heroes post for a new word. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 03:56
by Stanley
:biggrin2:
Later.... THIS came to my attention and I had to go back and look at my use of commas. I find I don't use it if the sense is clear. Never conscious of this, and never heard of the 'Oxford Comma'. It must be the grammatical rules I was taught when young which still influence my style today without any thought. After 80 years it has become automatic.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 06:50
by Wendyf
Interesting link to a photo of a piano Stanley....

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 07:38
by Stanley
Clever bugger!
Just heard a man on R4 say consensus when what he actually should have said was 'contentious'.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 09:00
by Big Kev
It's still pointing at a piano :biggrin2:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 09:47
by PanBiker
Clipboard brain fart. :extrawink:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 12:38
by Tizer
Stanley wrote: 29 Jan 2020, 07:38 Just heard a man on R4 say consensus when what he actually should have said was 'contentious'.
When I make a statement like that Mrs Tiz tells me my I've forgotten to put in my hearing aids!

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 30 Jan 2020, 03:13
by Stanley
Only just realised what you have all been on about..... You're right, my mistake!
Try THIS
Sorry about that!

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 30 Jan 2020, 08:58
by cloghopper
Stanley wrote: 29 Jan 2020, 03:56 :biggrin2:

Thank you for that reassurance Stanley. I thought I was the only person in the world who hadn't heard of the Oxford comma. :biggrin2:
cheers to everyone.
cloggy

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 30 Jan 2020, 09:15
by Wendyf
Hello Cloggy!

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 30 Jan 2020, 10:11
by Tizer
When I worked in publishing the British style guides advised avoiding the Oxford/serial comma because it is redundant except in those instances were it would lead to confusion. Likewise, no comma was needed before `etc'.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 30 Jan 2020, 15:35
by Tripps
Might be as well to get up to speed on the word Quarantine.
We're likely to see plenty of in the near future. . . . :smile:

The word quarantine comes from a seventeenth-century Venetian variant of the Italian quaranta giorni, meaning forty days, the period that all ships were required to be isolated before passengers and crew could go ashore during the Black Death plague epidemic.[4] Quarantine can be applied to humans, but also to animals of various kinds, and both as part of border control as well as within a country.