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Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 10 Mar 2021, 03:52
by Stanley
I must need to get out more. Never heard of ideation David.
I went for a furtle...
"Ideation might sound new, but the word has been around since the 1800's. ... In medical speak, ideation is "the forming of mental images." In this sense the word is often paired with suicidal — suicidal ideation refers to someone thinking about killing herself. Sadly, that's the most common use of ideation."
OK, but why not say thought process and why is the suicidal example a female?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 10 Mar 2021, 10:24
by Tizer
The boss of Klarna quoted on the BBC web site: "We've identified that there's been mistakes done. We have not always followed our own advertising principals and marketing principals." I don't know if it's the Klarna man or the BBC that doesn't know the difference between principals and principles. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 10 Mar 2021, 10:51
by Tripps
Tizer wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 10:24 We have not always followed our own advertising principals and marketing principals.
Puttimg my 'awkward squad' hat on - it could be argued that they meant the principals of their advertising and marketing branches. I doubt it though. . . . :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 10 Mar 2021, 11:40
by Tizer
I thought the same but, like you, doubt that's the answer. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 10 Mar 2021, 17:52
by Whyperion
Always a problem if typing from an audio source without working out the context at the same time. Learned by most kids at one time by 11 for the 11plus?
Tizer wrote: 01 Mar 2021, 16:35 I've just received an email reminder to renew my insurance and it contains the following sentence (honestly!)
Please find attached our renewal incitation for the above property which is due 23 March.
Presumably a typo, C and V being next to each other, and spell check did not pick it up (has anyone tried Grammarly and see if it falls over on these?)
Stanley wrote: 04 Mar 2021, 03:09 Today's is 'wadmol'. "a bulky woollen fabric woven of coarse yarn and heavily napped, formerly much used in England and Scandinavia for the manufacture of durable winter garments."
Is that where the term for a bulky handful of paper currency comes from - A Wad of Fivers (doesnt work with these new slippy plastic things)

Tizer wrote: 06 Mar 2021, 10:32 .. I also noted his use of `gender health gap'. There's no such thing, it's a `sexual health gap' and calling it gender will only obscure the information and make the study unreliable. Are we frightened by the words sex and sexual now?]

Isnt there a problem, Sexual Heath referring normally to the medical correct functioning of the reproductive system(s). Gender Inequality being the way that males and females are respected and treated in the medical (mental and physical) communities - doctors, hospitals mainly, it can cross-over into the childbirth area where the experience the woman reports (particulary if something is going (painfully) wrong), is ignored or not addressed correctly - Institutionally the inequalities seem to arise from the male setting of the medical agenda, but practically I get the feeling its the women whom are not always switched on to how the women in the system are feeling and getting treated (maybe not in A&E but other treatments), I think it might be that women are programmed as carers - and this is manifest mainly to the males in their lives , - other women I think are regarded as a ' threat ' and therefore dont get the same kind of care (see merkats and rabbits for examples). UK statistics also probably get masked with the racial inequalities - particulary the experiences of Pakistani and West Indian females.
Stanley wrote: 07 Mar 2021, 04:23 The best way to be distinctive these days is to be clear, concise and grammatically correct.
Tried that, depends how educated ones audience is. - I find local MPs and Councilors can be incredibly dim at understanding, alas, if they are from a differing ethnic background more so unless they had a mixed upbringing as young children.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 10 Mar 2021, 18:13
by plaques
A new new on me .. :biggrin2:

Cenosillicaphobia

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 10 Mar 2021, 20:03
by Tripps
Me too -

Must be related to Novinophobia :smile:
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Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 03:27
by Stanley
Is there a phobia triggered by long words describing phobias that don't apply to me?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 10:44
by Tizer
Would demicenosillicaphobia be fear of a glass half empty or half full?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 12:33
by Tripps
Splendid. I'll Google it in a few days - there won't be many more I'd guess. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 16:49
by Tizer
I wonder why the spelling is -sillica- and not silica? After all, glass is silica, spelt with one L and that makes one L of a difference! :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 11 Mar 2021, 19:14
by Tripps
Here's a thought - I've been slightly involved in French racing for a while and spent a lot of time on the 'France Galop' website - It's exemplary. I noticed that during the process of entering a horse, and declaring it to run, there are several stages.

For instance -
Closing
FORFAIT 1 Samedi 13 Mars 2021 11h30 BOULOGNE
PARTANT PROBABLE Lundi 15 Mars 2021 11h30 ==
ENGAGEMENT SUPPLEMENT. Lundi 15 Mars 2021 11h30 ==
MONTE Mardi 16 Mars 2021 12h30 ==
ANNULATION PART PROB Mardi 16 Mars 2021 10h30 ==

See - the "Monte" is the full list of actual runners - the "Full Monte" I'd say !

It's as good an explanation as any of the others. Never really believed that Montague Burtion nonsense. :laugh5:

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PS - France Galop - the P is silent as in bath. :smile:
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Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 03:56
by Stanley
Now that really is an interesting observation!

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 16 Mar 2021, 11:47
by Cathy
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Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 04:59
by Stanley
I recognise them all Cathy.... :biggrin2:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 20 Mar 2021, 05:05
by Stanley
I used 'happen' in the sense of 'perhaps' this morning. Is this a local thing or is it used further afield?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 20 Mar 2021, 08:54
by Tripps
Just the North I think, and ,perhaps, mainly Lancashire. It might even be a shibboleth :smile:

PS - and I very much doubt that the letter H has ever been pronounced. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 20 Mar 2021, 09:59
by chinatyke
Stanley wrote: 20 Mar 2021, 05:05 I used 'happen' in the sense of 'perhaps' this morning. Is this a local thing or is it used further afield?
Happen it is. :biggrin2:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 21 Mar 2021, 05:18
by Stanley
China..... :biggrin2:
David, I like the notion of a shibboleth and believe that could be true. Certainly very common in my life and yes, the 'H' was not wanted on voyage.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 26 Mar 2021, 08:36
by Wendyf
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Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 26 Mar 2021, 11:38
by Tizer
Very good Wendy! :laugh5:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 05:02
by Stanley
Good one Wendy.....

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 10:21
by Tizer
I've been looking at a 1980s book and see the word `immanent' used frequently. I don't see it about much otherwise. Perhaps we always use inherent or existential now?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 12:43
by Tripps
Ashamed to say - I've never heard of it. I have now. . .. :smile:

I learned the expresion 'Lincoln odds ' which has been used on here a few times.

Well - today's the day. The Lincoln Handicap It's 14/1 bar four at the moment so looks like it's all true. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 28 Mar 2021, 03:20
by Stanley
I had to look it up and am still not sure what it means......
I used 'gerrymandering' this morning. Quite pleased with that!