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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 01 Jul 2014, 08:38
by Bodger
Hjorth lathes, boston, us, used for making springs !!, don't ask me how ?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 01 Jul 2014, 08:40
by Bodger

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 02 Jul 2014, 04:01
by Stanley
Bodge has it exactly. Used for making any coil of wire. Using the tool the wire is fed into a mandrel in the lathe. The 'petal' plate is an adjustment for different thicknesses of wire, the recesses are different depths. It was amongst some tools I bought in a shed clearance and it was years before I found it when I got access to Google.
Next for shaving?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 03 Jul 2014, 06:07
by Stanley
Try this one....

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 03 Jul 2014, 07:39
by David Whipp
Used with a bar through the hole to rotate something with two holes in it?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 03 Jul 2014, 07:59
by Pluggy
For opening and closing stop cocks in holes. Except its not big enough.....

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 03 Jul 2014, 08:29
by PanBiker
I would agree with that and also that it's not big enough, multi tool though, two different sized ends.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 03 Jul 2014, 15:22
by chinatyke
Is it for holding the governors balls apart to check the operation of the steam valve when you are installing one of your steam engines?

Another thought, for opening the small Trisure bungs in oil drums?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 04 Jul 2014, 03:10
by Stanley
I have to come clean about this one.... I don't know whether it's still there but just as you got into Oldham on the Rochdale road, almost under the big railway bridge, there used to be a wonderful marine store and I often took an odd half hour to have a browse. I saw a couple of sizes of this tool and bought them. The bloke behind the counter said that he was glad I was buying them because that meant that I could tell them what they were for. I told him I had no idea! That was why I was buying them. I have never pinned them down properly but my favourite is for removing those counter sunk circular conical nuts that went on the end of a protruding thread and were flush with the surface. They had a slot like a normal countersunk screw but a screwdriver was no use as the end of the thread interfered with the blade. Anyone got a better idea? (They're ex-army surplus...)

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 04 Jul 2014, 04:09
by chinatyke
Ahhh, a marine connection. Over to you Thomo ... :laugh5:

What you say, Stanley, sounds feasible because those flush conical nuts were used in wooden boat construction.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 04 Jul 2014, 05:12
by David Whipp
Fresh conical nuts sounds better than governor's balls...

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 04 Jul 2014, 07:35
by Stanley
China, when I say 'marine store' I mean one of those places that sell everything from a pin to an anchor, not necessarily maritime equipment. Goes back to an earlier time when rag and bone dealers were often described as 'marine stores'. You know what I am like with archaic language.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 05 Jul 2014, 04:15
by Stanley
Further to marine stores... Paul Brydon, Barlick's most prominent rag and bone man, had one leg and a pony and two wheeled cart. He collected in Barlick and Earby early in the 20th century. He had premises at the bottom of Commercial Street and later on Longfield Lane near the waterfall. Both places were noted in the trade directories as 'marine stores'. Here's a rag and bone man with the typical horse and cart in Salford in the 1970s.

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Right! We need another object.... Clue, it came from the same source in Oldham as the last one... So, unusual.


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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 05 Jul 2014, 07:54
by David Whipp
Sextant box.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 06 Jul 2014, 04:45
by Stanley
Too small David. There's an association with time..... No! Don't get excited! It's not a chronometer, a bit more technical than that.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 06 Jul 2014, 10:38
by Tizer
There might be a cat in the box but perhaps we'll never know.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 06 Jul 2014, 19:51
by plaques
Tizer wrote:There might be a cat in the box but perhaps we'll never know.
Would that be Schrodinger's cat? Actually its a gold plated Astrological chart ring for predicting potential catastrophic doom events that may befall Barlick.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 07 Jul 2014, 04:24
by Stanley
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Does this help?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 07 Jul 2014, 06:29
by David Whipp
Stamps or stencils?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 07 Jul 2014, 06:44
by Wendyf
The numbers seem to correspond to adult shoe sizes.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 07 Jul 2014, 07:27
by Stanley
Not there yet. Look at the size and think of time.....

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 07 Jul 2014, 07:56
by Gloria
Something to do with weights and a pendulum clock???

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 07 Jul 2014, 09:23
by chinatyke
Why isn't there number 1 and 1¹₂ ?

Is that a clue?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 07 Jul 2014, 09:32
by Big Kev
Do you put them on a pendulum to finely adjust a big clock?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 07 Jul 2014, 11:40
by Pluggy
Big Kev wrote:Do you put them on a pendulum to finely adjust a big clock?
Rich man's pennies ?

It fits the clues, but I can't help thinking it's severe overkill, you'd want to use something long term that didn't break up a pretty set. Having said that, I haven't a clue.... :)