OneGuyFromBarlick

I hope your son and his wife recover well Tripps.

Largely I agree with all that David my daughter had Covid and recovered, then had both vaccinations and is now ill with what will almost certainly be described as 'long Covid'. I wish your son and his wife all the best, tell them to treat it with respect even when they have recovered. There's a lot we don't know about Covid yet.
Re. the sudden alteration in the number of vaccination boosters. Have you clocked the shortage of the glass vials due to 'supply chain problems'? The latter often being shorthand for problems caused by Brexit.

I got a news notification on my phone to say that 100,000 doses of the AZ vaccine are coming up to being dumped as they are approaching their use by date. Blamed on the shift in vaccinating the younger end with the different manufactured versions. I'll take one as a booster if I am offered.

I hope your son and wife get over it OK David and don't inherit any long term effects.

Thank you all for your good wishes. They will be passed on.

In Scotland the return of schools has driven the covid infection levels to a worrying level. The same fears are now being expressed in England. The experts don't really know if the transmission flow is from schools to the general population or the other way round. We shall soon find out. Isn't it exciting being part of an experiment where you could land up in hospital.

I saw that report as well Ken and I heard Nicola Sturgeon expressing her disquiet on the subject. As you say, it's a big experiment. I think those of us who decided to just carry on shielding took the right course. As far as I can see the kids have ditched all precautions. If it goes wrong it could be a rough winter.

According to the Observer's front page the ONS says Covid infection figures are 26 times higher than a year ago and scientists described this as `sobering'.

And there was no "vaccine" this time last year, and the schools are going back soon. In Scotland this has resulted in a huge increase in cases.

I noticed a comment in The Times that in a survey of 16,000 people in Wuhan who had caught the virus at the beginning of the pandemic half of them were still ill with long Covid.

Just thought I'd mention it. A bit of history never goes amiss..

. Although welcomed as "the future King", Albert Victor died on 14.1.1892 in the influenza pandemic at just 28.

Not the most cheerful start I have had to the day but I have to admit you all have a point.
You're right about history Ken. One of the consequences of the Black Death in 1348 was that wages went up and if the lords didn't pay the serfs flit to someone who would. Hang on a minute......

Most people you ask would say influenza began in 1918 or would reply `Don't know' but here's a different story...

`The pandemic in 1918 was hardly the first influenza pandemic, nor was it the only lethal one. Throughout history, there have been influenza pandemics, some of which may have rivaled 1918's lethality. A partial listing of particularly violent outbreaks likely to have been influenza include one in 1510 when a pandemic believed to come from Africa “attacked at once and raged all over Europe not missing a family and scarce a person” (Beveridge, 1977). In 1580, another pandemic started in Asia, then spread to Africa, Europe, and even America (despite the fact that it took 6 weeks to cross the ocean). It was so fierce “that in the space of six weeks it afflicted almost all the nations of Europe, of whom hardly the twentieth person was free of the disease” and some Spanish cities were “nearly entirely depopulated by the disease” (Beveridge, 1977). In 1688, influenza struck England, Ireland, and Virginia; in all these places “the people dyed … as in a plague” (Duffy, 1953). A mutated or new virus continued to plague Europe and America again in 1693 and Massachusetts in 1699. “The sickness extended to almost all families. Few or none escaped, and many dyed especially in Boston, and some dyed in a strange or unusual manner, in some families all were sick together, in some towns almost all were sick so that it was a time of disease” (Pettit, 1976). In London in 1847 and 1848, more people died from influenza than from the terrible cholera epidemic of 1832. In 1889 and 1890, a great and violent worldwide pandemic struck again (Beveridge, 1977).' From the US National Institutes of Health: NIH

Here's another cheerful thought. The present pandemic is just entering it's third and more infectious phase and shows no sign of abating.

The front page of the Telegraph this morning reports that up to 700,000 vaccine passports have been affected by NHS blunders - locking many people out of foreign travel - after the wrong data was recorded by health officials.

My lad tells me last night, that both he and his wife are now "both back to full fitness and fully recovered". So ten days from onset to recovery.
That's a relief. Must have been all those good wishes.

Tripps wrote: ↑31 Aug 2021, 10:06 My lad tells me last night, that both he and his wife are now "both back to full fitness and fully recovered". So ten days from onset to recovery.
That's a relief. Must have been all those good wishes.

Good news Tripps.

Great news Tripps

Big relief Tripps

Excellent David.

Good news David but make sure they take it easy, from Susan's experience it can be weeks before the after effects kick in. Better safe than sorry.

Thanks for all the kind remarks. They are appreciated.

Today I see this - which confuses me. "We have a pandemic of the unvaccinated" says the Aussie Premier. Seems to imply that only the unvaccinated are spreading the virus. The received wisdom here seems to contradict that. He broadly hints that going forward the unvaccinated will be isolated from everyday life. Looks like it's handy that Boris has just 'lent' them 4 million doses of Pfizer.

PS - seems he is Premier of Victoria not Australia.


What's a chap to think?




PPS

Where will this take us ?

Transmission from vaccinated people

I think he's firing from the hip and hasn't really thought that one out. I don't see how such a policy would be workable, let alone legal. It didn't succeed with religion so why with Covid jabs?

Not quite sure what to make of THIS. There is so little hard information about the progress of the fight against the infection. I see all the people and children who have abandoned social spacing and wonder if we are sleep walking into another serious flare-up.

Stanley wrote: ↑09 Sep 2021, 04:12 ...and wonder if we are sleep walking into another serious flare-up.

You have a 7 day average of over 38925 confirmed new cases per day, with over 7 million cumulative cases, isn't that serious enough? It sounds horrendous.

Source: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ [272474 cases in last 7 days]