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Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 16 Jun 2022, 15:13
by Tripps
Here we go again. Another failure. . . :smile:

I'm not surprised at the use of this well known phrase.

I am surprised at its origin, and incredible age.

Now I must be off to supervise the Ascot Gold Cup. (Ironic) :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 16 Jun 2022, 17:24
by Wendyf
Tripps wrote: 16 Jun 2022, 15:13 Here we go again. Another failure. . . :smile:

I'm not surprised at the use of this well known phrase.

I am surprised at its origin, and incredible age.

Now I must be off to supervise the Ascot Gold Cup. (Ironic) :smile:
Understood your post completely, common phrase but surprising origin.

I had to look up 'counterfactual' after hearing it used (as if everyone knew it's meaning) on a Radio 4 programme the other evening. The programme turned out to be "All In The Mind" so perhaps an assumption was made that anyone listening would know. I quite like having counterfactual thoughts now I'm too old to daydream... :laugh5:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 17 Jun 2022, 03:16
by Stanley
I'm with Wendy... It was the origin that surprised not the phrase. :biggrin2:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 21 Jun 2022, 02:29
by Stanley
I've just used 'manky' in a post. I wonder how common that is and what the origin is.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 21 Jun 2022, 10:08
by Tripps
I haven't heard it since leaving the Army. It was in very common use there. This is closest to my definition -

"used to describe an object that is unpleasantly dirty, usually because it is old or has been used a lot"

A sub genre is "reesty" which usually applied to lockers in Singapore which had gone mouldy due to damp and heat.

I'm off on one now :smile: - Over there, underpants were called Hings (after a local brand) or "shreddies" after the Aertex texture of Shredded Wheat I'd guess.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 21 Jun 2022, 10:27
by Stanley
Another word the Cheshires introduced me to was 'bramah' used to describe something that was outstanding. I got the impression that was Birke3nhead slang. I have a theory as to its origin but wonder if anyone else has one first.....

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 21 Jun 2022, 10:36
by Tripps
I'm pretty sure it refers to Bramah Locks

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 21 Jun 2022, 10:38
by Stanley
That was my thought also David...... :biggrin2:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 24 Jun 2022, 06:12
by Cathy
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Some tongue twisters there 😊

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 24 Jun 2022, 07:22
by Stanley
It ain't easy! :biggrin2:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 27 Jun 2022, 16:39
by Tripps
I've just seen the pricing of motor fuel described as "rocket and feather".

Up like a rocket but down (maybe a pun there) and down like a feather. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 28 Jun 2022, 02:37
by Stanley
Never heard that before David.
Ian has used a good bit of dialect, the use of the word 'force' for a waterfall up in the Dales......

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 19 Jul 2022, 09:23
by Tizer
I read a very good article in The Times about how woke issues and attitudes have infected our businesses and institutions. In particular the author describes how they are trying to appear `woke' while at the same time getting away with bad behaviour. He said they were employing a `wokescreen'. In the case of banks he related how Halifax had told customers `to use the correct pronouns' when contacting their staff. When their was some resistance from customers it posted a message telling them if they didn't like it they could always `take their banking elsewhere'. Not surprisingly, many did! :smile: But then HSBC came out in defence of Halifax and said the same to their customers. All the other banks followed suit. And yet this was at a time that Haifax was closing branches faster than other banks and HSBC was refusing to call out China on its treatment of the Uigher people.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 19 Jul 2022, 14:26
by Whyperion
Stanley wrote: 21 Jun 2022, 10:27 Another word the Cheshires introduced me to was 'bramah' used to describe something that was outstanding. I got the impression that was Birke3nhead slang. I have a theory as to its origin but wonder if anyone else has one first.....
Wasnt it a trade mark ? (stoves ? matches ?)

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 19 Jul 2022, 21:56
by Big Kev
Lovely, the smell of petrichor after two days of heat. It didn't last long though.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 20 Jul 2022, 03:04
by Stanley
I had to look it up Kev, the smell of earth after a shower of rain when it is dry. Lovely! A long time since I experienced that and I'll bet it's even better if you are a hay fever victim.
Peter, re. the woke pronouns... It was ever thus... I remember years ago being outraged by a woman who objected to being called 'a lady'. I admit to telling her it could have been much worse!

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 22 Jul 2022, 03:54
by Stanley
'Selectorate' a word coined in 2022 for the 160,000 Tory Party members who had the task of selecting the new Tory Party leader (and therefore Prime Minister) after the resignation of the disgraced Boris Johnson.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 25 Jul 2022, 10:42
by Tizer
Referring to Truss and Sunak in a BBC web page I see this: `Sir Keir will use his speech in Liverpool to criticise their "Thatcherite cosplay" and condemn the economic record of successive Conservative governments over the past decade.' LINK

What is cosplay? Is it a Labour Party word for something? :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 25 Jul 2022, 11:21
by PanBiker
Tizer wrote: 25 Jul 2022, 10:42 What is cosplay? Is it a Labour Party word for something? :smile:
No, it can be used to describe anyone who dresses up or represents someone else. Here are few of ours, :smile:

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One thing is for certain, non of the Tories can pass themselves of as Super Heroes. :laugh5:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 25 Jul 2022, 17:01
by Tripps
Splendid photographs. Best rank Sergeant. :smile:

Tizer wrote: 25 Jul 2022, 10:42 What is cosplay? Is it a Labour Party word for something?
Never heard of it . . . . I've heard of 'role play' and 're-enactmement'. It sounds like an internet type of word like trope and meme.

I don't care for any of them. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 26 Jul 2022, 02:51
by Stanley
I'm right there with you David. Too many 'new words' about. We had 'selectorate a couple of days ago.
Coined by writers who want to make their pieces memorable I think.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 26 Jul 2022, 08:24
by PanBiker
Whether you like the word or not it is in general usage. There are worldwide cosplay conventions.

You probably won't like Anime either but that is another word from the same genre. The latter is when the individuals make and wear costumes that represent video game characters.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 26 Jul 2022, 08:49
by Wendyf
Now we have mansplaining....

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 26 Jul 2022, 09:12
by Tizer
Ian, lovely photos and great to see them, thanks! Do you know the derivation of cosplay? I can't figure out what it comes from. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 26 Jul 2022, 09:14
by Cathy
I can get my head around Cosplay - Costume Play, but not Anime... 🤔