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Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 29 May 2023, 02:13
by Stanley
Yes, I have heard that usage. Also 'bait' as in bait tin......

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 29 May 2023, 07:56
by Tizer
In Cornwall miners took their `crouse' (lunch) down the mine.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 30 May 2023, 02:38
by Stanley
That's a new word for me Peter. Thanks!

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 31 May 2023, 19:56
by Tripps
From the Diamond Geezer

Sat 13: Well didn't Liverpool triumph at Eurovision? The city showcased itself perfectly for a full week, the BBC pulled out all the stops to deliver a nigh-flawless set of shows, Hannah Waddingham was a star, Finland were diddled, and we may never see any of that here in the UK again during our lifetime.

I haven't seen 'diddled' for a very long time. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 01 Jun 2023, 10:59
by Cathy
Have we had ‘Clever-clogs’ ? - someone who knows everything. First recorded in England in 1866. Presumably from Clever-boots, from the 17th century.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 01 Jun 2023, 13:21
by Stanley
There's something about the repeat of the 'cl' sound that's so satisfying.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 01 Jun 2023, 15:48
by Tizer
Yes, like clip clop for the sound of horses hooves.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 02 Jun 2023, 02:36
by Stanley
(I told you in another topic I was a simple soul..... :biggrin2: )

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 02 Jun 2023, 04:21
by Cathy
Or the Click-clack of high heels

Or the Clickety-clack of train wheels.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 02 Jun 2023, 04:52
by Stanley
Or the Clickety-clack of train wheels.


Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 02 Jun 2023, 05:10
by Cathy
:good: I think he must have enjoyed making all those sounds. It was funny when he said ‘Turn the record over’ 😂

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 02 Jun 2023, 07:37
by Tizer
I learnt a new word yesterday while reading a geology book explaining how erosion of rock occurs by flowing water containing sand and pebbles. It's `corrasion' (not to be confused with corrosion) derived from the Latin word for `scrape'. We are all familiar with abrasion and that is derived from Latin for `shave'. Water flowing over a rock bed abrades the rock surface; water flowing past river banks corrades the bank surface, removing pebbles, soil, silt etc.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 03 Jun 2023, 02:45
by Stanley
It gets complicated doesn't it..... :biggrin2:
I don't think I will be using that one much.......

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 03 Jun 2023, 05:59
by Cathy
The word Foist - to force someone to have or experience something they do not want.
First used probably in the 1540’s . Dutch - take in hand.
Apparently the word is obsolete now.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 03 Jun 2023, 11:12
by Tripps
Cathy wrote: 03 Jun 2023, 05:59 Apparently the word is obsolete now.
I'd say not - I don't want that opinion foisted upon me. :laugh5:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 04 Jun 2023, 02:24
by Stanley
I agree with David Cathy. I suppose it's possible for some words to become obsolete if the thing they are associated dies out but they are far more likely to become archaic and I like to use them and perhaps breathe a bit of fresh life into them. An archaic word can sometimes have more impact than the modern equivalent because it makes people pause and think.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 04 Jun 2023, 08:30
by Tizer
I've just remembered something that was fermenting at the back of my brain after I saw the comments about `clever clogs' and `clip clop' above. It's this - `curzy wurzy' which is the Cornish name for walls made from slates in horizontal rows, alternating with a lean to the left then to the right then to the left etc. It gives a beautiful appearance.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 04 Jun 2023, 08:54
by Cathy
Curzy-wurzy walls… like this Tize?
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Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 04 Jun 2023, 09:41
by Tizer
That's it, Cathy, and the typical mounds of sea thrift flowers growing on it when it's near the sea. Coincidentally I've just posted a photo in the Wildlife topic showing thrift on the cliffs in Cornwall.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 05 Jun 2023, 03:03
by Stanley
Never come across curzy-wurzy walls before.... Nice one!

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 07 Jun 2023, 04:02
by Stanley
My dad had a saying, "He hadn't a stuiver to his name".
I looked it up....
"The stuiver [stœy. vər] was a coin used in the Netherlands, worth one twentieth of a Dutch Guilder ( 16 penning or 8 duit, later 5 cents). It was also minted on the Lower Rhine region and the Dutch colonies."
Was this from his Aussie childhood or has anyone come across it here?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 08 Jun 2023, 13:53
by Tripps
Not a word I've ever heard of, but I see a variant is 'stoey'. Well Aunty Josie used to call sixpence (tanner) a 'joey' . Bit of a long shot to connect them though. :smile:

(PS - on reflection it might have been her name for a threepenny bit.)

I note that it seems to have been agreed in the press that the Kherson (Ukraine) dam disaster be described as a "collapse". I imagine that's because they cannot prove beyond doubt who actually blew it up. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 08 Jun 2023, 15:54
by Tizer
Well we do know that the Russians have been overfilling the dam beyond its safety level so perhaps it needed little or no extra help to collapse.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 09 Jun 2023, 02:15
by Stanley
David, 'Joey' was always my slang name for a threepenny bit. Looking back, would kids know what a Florin or a half-crown was? (Let alone a guinea!)

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 09 Jun 2023, 10:00
by PanBiker
Half a dollar, where did that go, the dollar, more or less parity with the pound now. :ohno: