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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 20 Feb 2015, 08:09
by Marilyn
Ha Ha...I thought it looked like a like one of those robotic vacuum cleaners, from underneath, so turned upside down. ( she says, never having actually seen one up-ended) :juggle:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 20 Feb 2015, 09:09
by PanBiker
When you Google images of these types of power cables (underground and submarine) you find that lot of them are manufactured in China. How did you come across a section like that? Not the normal kind of thing you have hanging around, having said that Stanley's treasure chest is full of extraordinary stuff. :grin:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 21 Feb 2015, 04:29
by Stanley
Remember the heavy ICI flask that is in the treasure chest? Tiz mailed me the other day to say that an article about it is in the ICI house magazine so we might get a clue as to what it is....

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 06:25
by Stanley
I think we need a new object.... Try this one.

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Just short of two inches in diameter.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 07:50
by David Whipp
Door knob.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 11:14
by chinatyke
Billiard ball made from ivory?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 11:49
by Gloria
Inside of old fashioned leather covered cricket ball?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 12:35
by Tizer
A used gobstopper?
Stanley wrote:Remember the heavy ICI flask that is in the treasure chest? Tiz mailed me the other day to say that an article about it is in the ICI house magazine so we might get a clue as to what it is....[/img]
I'd better just add a correction to that, because people searching after reading about the flask in the magazine may well find this web page. The flask is being mentioned in the newsletter of the Royal Society of Chemistry's Historical Group. Let's hope one of their readers can identify it fully and explain its use.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 13:07
by Pluggy
Some kind of float involved in a air purging system of some description ?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 23 Feb 2015, 05:20
by Stanley
Thanks for the correction Tiz....
China got it in one, an old ivory billiard ball I got in a mixed lot of ivory cut-offs from an old workshop.
Next for shaving?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 23 Feb 2015, 09:58
by Tizer
I'm still not convinced about it being a billiard ball - are you sure it isn't a prosthesis that belonged to an Austrian house painter who had a second career in attempting a restructure of Europe?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 24 Feb 2015, 05:27
by Stanley
Positive, the evidence is that his remaining testicle was 'very small'.
All right, try this one!

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All right, it's a twist drill but why the fluted taper?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 24 Feb 2015, 08:56
by Gloria
Never in all my born days have I ever seen one of those!!!!!

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 24 Feb 2015, 10:02
by plaques
I'm with Gloria, never seen one but can imagine its to help with the coolant supply for deep holes. A little like the long gun drills.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 24 Feb 2015, 10:22
by Bodger
Pre reamer taper pin holes

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 24 Feb 2015, 11:43
by Tizer
chinatyke wrote:Image

This interesting object came to my attention the other day, it might be a bit obvious to some, but accurate description please.
For a bit more information about the cable I contacted the Collections Manager at the Telegraph Museum in Porthcurno, Cornwall, and have now received the following reply:

I forwarded your email onto one of our researchers, who has carried out many years of research into telecommunication cables. He emailed the below reply: "I thought I had seen the photo somewhere before and here it is:
http://hybridtechcar.com/underwater-hig ... -3-photos/
The other photos and the bit of text explain what it is all about. Such cables use heavy copper conductors insulated in thick polyethylene and armoured overall (two layers in this case). Overall sheathing is probably polyethylene too and marked with a bold stripe for easy identification (a bit like wasps and for similar reasons). I think that they usually try to bury such cables since they are laid in inshore waters and trawling is a hazard".

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 24 Feb 2015, 13:15
by Gloria
plaques wrote:I'm with Gloria, never seen one but can imagine its to help with the coolant supply for deep holes. A little like the long gun drills.
I think you may be onto something there Plaques.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 24 Feb 2015, 14:01
by chinatyke
Thanks, Tizer.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 04:59
by Stanley
Re the fluted taper on the drill. I've posted this before and Have never got to any conclusion, a proper mystery. I can see the thinking behind the cutting fluid but how could the source be in the tailstock or quill? Also, the fluid would have to follow the flutes and the same effect would be gained by simply flooding the flutes where they entered the hole. I tend to agree with Bodge. Reamers for Morse tapers are expensive and comparatively rare. I have a set for 1. 2 and 3 and I remember they cost me an arm and a leg. I suspect that someone had access to spiral milling on the taper on a Horizontal mill and put the flutes in to clear rags out of a taper. It couldn't be a good cutter because the taper is relatively soft. Alternatively could it be a trial or apprentice exercise? Just one additional point, the level of corrosion on the fluting of the taper and the drill is the same, it looks as though the drill was in new condition when it was done. It remains a puzzle until someone says they have seen one before.... (I've just been in the shed and examined the drill closely. Marked 'Vickers' and 'Registered design 25/32" High CW???'
Try this one while we are looking at drills. Before you leap in, look at the end, it has a centre hole and no cutting edge, also three flutes. 14" overall including taper. What is it?

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 05:59
by Cathy
It's really just a stick of licorice trying to look incognito :grin:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 07:42
by Stanley
You'd have a job chewing it Cathy, it's High Speed steel.....

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 08:16
by plaques
Three or more: fluted drills are used for enlarging existing holes. They will not drill a hole from start so there is no need for a front cutting edge.

A quick edit on the last drill .ISO 296:1991(en) has a comment which may be relevant. "Lastly, this International Standard specifies the dimensions of grooves and holes necessary for the design of tapers for applications where coolant supply is required." Without reading the full standard it looks promising.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 26 Feb 2015, 05:57
by Stanley
P is right, it's more reamer than drill. Often used for manufacturing gun barrels.
Next for shaving?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 26 Feb 2015, 08:23
by David Whipp
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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 26 Feb 2015, 08:37
by PanBiker
I know but I will let others have a go.