OneGuyFromBarlick

Stanley wrote:I remember seeing that one before. Wonderful clarity! Have a word with him and ask him if he could do a flyover of the Shitten Ginnel area where I am positive that Barlick's ancient Saxon church was. Who knows, it might give us some clues.... I've been shouting about it for years, even tried to get Time Team interested but no joy. If we could ever prove it it would give Barlick even more street cred because these early churches are so rare. We've plenty of documentary evidence but nothing on the ground.....

I'll have a chat with Bryan next time I see him. Can you pinpoint the location for me, as an offcumden I'm not 100% on where you mean.

Kev, that's the area above the new bike track off Calf Hall Lane, and the mill (Hope) and the area to the West of the Monkroyd Estate. Shitten Ginnel is also known as Pickles Hipping and is the path that runs down from Esp Lane at Town Head to Calf Hall, it crosses Springs beck in the bottom. That is the oldest area of town.

Here's the Google Earth view:

You can download LiDAR tiles from the Environment Agency website Here. If you are not using them for commercial purposes there is a 100% discount. I've downloaded a few of Earby for the history society to use in our water mill research. John Clayton has a clever trick of enhancing them so features stand out more clearly.

PanBiker wrote:Kev, that's the area above the new bike track off Calf Hall Lane, and the mill (Hope) and the area to the West of the Monkroyd Estate. Shitten Ginnel is also known as Pickles Hipping and is the path that runs down from Esp Lane at Town Head to Calf Hall, it crosses Springs beck in the bottom. That is the oldest area of town.

Here's the Google Earth view:

monkroyd.jpg

I know where you mean now, thanks Ian.

P.29 of Shed Matters takes about 10 seconds on my 6Mbps connection at the moment which seems an awful long time to me. It gets worse at other times when the Internet is busier. I know it isn't much time in reality but it seems very slow when you're `popping in' to the thread for look to see what's there. I've nothing against having lots of images in the threads, it's essential in some topics and and useful and entertaining in others. And I know Stanley is careful with his image sizing, which I appreciate. The problem comes with the number of images per page (not per post) - can image-dense pages be kept shorter automatically in any way?

No way of doing it automatically based on image count but I'll have a look at page length in the admin console.

Page length is set to 25 posts, there is no setting for different types of post so this holds good for text only pages and ones including images, It's a reasonable trade off.

With the gallery application existing as a separate module there is no way to circumvent the loading mechanism only the size of the resultant images on the page. Altering this would not make a difference to the load time as the problem is purely down to the number of images in each post and total on the page. The site loads each page on demand and does not cache the entire thread as this would be like watching paint dry on a slower connection. It's basically down to the users download speed and processing capability of CPU and graphics on the users platform of choice.

We could reduce the page size to 20 but that would only represent a 20% reduction and I'm not sure of what the knock on to already indexed pages across the board would be as it would rejig the lot. I think you need to campaign for better broadband provision Tiz.

Thanks for taking the time to look at the situation Ian. It's obviously OK for most people otherwise there would be others raising it as an issue. Leave well enough alone, it could be a lot worse for me. I remember when I had 1MB in the bad old days. Mrs Tiz and I campaigned for broadband to come to this village and we did all the leafleting to get the support. Now it's the problem of being too far from the exchange and the problems of old copper cables. Perhaps I'll have to get Pluggy to build me a PC like Stanley's!

Only part of the solution unfortunately Tiz. You could have the fastest PC going but it would still be strangled by the bottleneck of your ADSL connection. You can hardly move in Barlick now without finding a new fiber cabinet reasonably close to most folk, all with Superfast Broadband available now stickers, sorry to rub it in.

Even with 16mps and the FM3 I have problems sometimes with some pages like David's views, I think he posts big images. One trick that works sometimes is to reload the page..... (This happens even at this time of the morning when the net is relatively quiet)
Saxon Church.... I think it was in the fields between Calf Hall Lane and Esp Lane on the high side of Pickles Hippings.

I would go for that location as well Stanley. The small field on the Springs side of the ginnel that has the stile that goes nowhere has an anomaly in the field. You can even see this on Google Earth, might just be a trick of the light or the condition prevalent at the survey date (2003 I think) but like you I think could warrant further investigation. Lidor view may yield more clues.

1960's aerial view from Mario. Where are you looking exactly?

That's the general area. The small field that Ian refers to is right at the top of the view butting on to the cattle grid on Calf Hall Lane. This is the kissing gate....



Then there's the question about the bridge that used to be there but which fell down....



If any of you have an interest in the supernatural you'll like a small book that Chris Aspin has published. ('Strange Stories from a Lancashire Village. Published by Helmshore Local History Society. ISBN 978-0-906881-23-1) It's a good little read.....

What a nice morning it is.... Barlick weather appears to have a life of its own.... We are warned of cold NW winds and rain but at the moment our little corner is doing quite well....

The vexed question of whether this is a good day for washing the blanket which protects my sofa from the worst of the dog hairs and the muck I bring in from the Shed! A small matter in the general scheme of things but important to me!

What are some (supposedly educated] people thinking?
Nursery school children in England are being taught to say Ba Ba Rainbow Sheep instead of Ba Ba Black Sheep for the old nursery rhyme.
Apparently its so that no-one feels different or left-out.
I can't imagine any of us were ever damaged in some way by singing the original words.
Hey, what about the sheep!? I imagine they were quite proud about being a different colour.
Changes to Noddy and now Ba Ba Black Sheep - what's next??
It really annoys me when people take something that's so innocent (and old) and mess around with it.


And here's a thought - how do you show a child a 'real' rainbow sheep?? Aarrgh !!

Cathy wrote:And here's a thought - how do you show a child a 'real' rainbow sheep?? Aarrgh !!

I see some every year, they have red or green patches on their backs?

That's hardly a rainbow Plaques...

I understand your alarm Cazza. I have one member of step family who, for religious reasons, does not believe that dinosaurs ever roamed the earth. They have the ( respected) right to teach their kids whatever they want, but I think excavated dinosaur bones challenge their beliefs without us saying anything. I don't have a religious bone in my body and only found out their belief ( luckily) minutes before I was about to give their child a top that had a T-Rex on it. Situation avoided.
My personal thoughts are that dinosaurs did exist, but you have to let these things wash over you so as not to cause arguments.........apparently 'tis the modern way....

Marilyn you are talking about Creationalism, The Earth being created 6000 years ago. A friend of mine who helps out in his local museum in the USA said it was quite common for people to come with their children, point at a dinosaur fossil and declare it to be 'Devils Work'. He apparently salted the Earth with these artifacts to deceive the non-believers into thinking the Bible was wrong. Now about this tooth fairy!

I don't know the ins and outs of their beliefs, other than they describe themselves as Christians.
Must admit I exhibit a distinct lack of interest.They know I am not receptive and we don't really discuss it.

I hadn't come across that one Cathy and I agree entirely. Apart from anything else the extra syllable in rainbow spoils the rhythm of the rhyme!
As for Creationism... it's a load of crap, as bad as believing the earth is flat..... Their biggest problem is fossils and they have developed some incredibly convoluted arguments to 'explain' them. Notice that they keep well away from Cosmology, that's a bit more difficult to explain....
The weather stayed dry during the morning and my blanket dried well. Surprising how fast it dries, I think it's because of the nap on the cloth that wicks the water away because of the increased evaporative area.....
Nebraska has become the 18th US state to abolish the death penalty. Well done!
The FBI seem to have started a proper clean out of the FIFA mess. Amazing how they are succeeding where everyone else failed. Says something about the tolerance that exists in our justice system once big money enters the equation. This is only the start of what could be a far bigger story.....
Private Eye have increased their text size about half a point. Not much but it makes it much easier to read.....

Cathy, as well as Ba Ba Black Sheep censorship we've now got the newspapers warning us of a ban on erasers in schools:
"A cognitive scientist has warned that erasers are "an instrument of the devil" and has called for them to be banned from the classroom. Guy Claxton, a visiting professor from King's College London, said that rubbers, which are a basic component of any school pencil case, encourage children to feel ashamed about their mistakes." LINK

We should ignore this news, of course. Unfortunately, the news media people seem to lack that part of the brain responsible for critical assessment. For start they blow up every statement into something terrible. Then they like to stress the "visiting professor from King's College London" and " cognitive scientist, Guy Claxton". More relevant is the fact that he's described as "the author and co-author of many books including Hare Brain, Tortoise Mind: Why Intelligence Increases When You Think Less, Wise Up: The Challenge of Lifelong Learning, New Kinds of Smart and The Learning Powered School." Journalists either don't understand or ignore the fact that such people have a vested interest in gaining self-publicity.

On Ba Ba Black Sheep...today we met up with a local Somerset lady in her 70s who has been in hospital for a month. She speaks Somerset dialect and complained that they couldn't understand her in the hospital. We pointed out that she's local and should be understood easily in the local hospital; also that we northerners can understand her. "Ah", she said, "But it's the black ones!" So many of the hospital staff are from overseas now and it's creating problems with communication. But she's not afraid of stating where the problem lies for her.

As for creationists...they're creatures who want us all to live in the mental darkness of ignorance, fearing the light. It's up to the rest of us to shine a light on their activities.

Splendid!! I noted the evils of the eraser but forgot to mention it. To quite 'Our Ernie's' Granddad.... "Daft I call it". I am reminded of the artificial controversy over abuse associated with Devil Worship. A totally spurious subject but it gained traction in the 80s and 90s and is still with us today even though almost universally denied. People have made a lot of money and stoked careers off it. (I was in Rochdale and saw some of the effects.)
As for lazy journalists.... 'Never let the facts get in the way of a good story' still rules sales and I don't see any prospects of that changing....

The Rochdale fiasco was inflamed by a former colleague of mine. I once described her has having notches on her car - one for every kid she'd taken into care. Removing kids from their parents seemed to be the be all and end all of the job for her and I was not a bit surprised to find that she was the manager who had started the initial witch hunt. I never heard anything of her after the ritual; abuse scandal. Maybe she joined the SAS.....but then again maybe they felt she was too extreme. Nolic