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Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 08:39
by plaques
Big Kev wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 08:27 What was on the site of the current police station? I know there was a big house but don't remember seeing any pictures of it
Wasn't it part of the Council Offices. I remember going there for a job interview in the 1960s.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 09:43
by PostmanPete
Stanley wrote: 14 Nov 2021, 04:59

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I'm not sure but I think this was the Wesleyan church on Rainhall Road.


I went for a furtle and found this on the web. So my top pic is wrong. Can anyone say which that is?
Could it have been the Primitive Wesleyan chapel on Station Road which was situated where the present car park is?

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 10:44
by Stanley
Kev, that was one of the doctors, someone will remember who....
Pete I think you are right, that has always been my second guess at it. I shall alter the title in my archive. Thanks for making my mind up!

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 15:59
by Zeke
Stanley wrote: 22 Feb 2021, 05:08 Image

Angus posted this image. The corner of Calf hall road and Colne road, from Walmsgate, looking to Westgate. all the properties in the forefront have since been demolished. The buildings centre, are on Cavendish street, and Queen street . the facing shop Is A. Shaw's, and the one on the left is Dawsons.
This is a very unusual view and needs a bit of thought to weigh it up. The road immediately to the right with the setts is Calf Hall Road.
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We resided on Queen Street until 1958 and I do remember Dawsons.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 04:08
by Stanley
That's a very unusual pic because I think almost every building on it has been demolished!

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More War Memorial. I found this pic of the wooden memorial when it was first moved to Letcliffe to stand there until the granite one was made.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 15:30
by Zeke
Stanley wrote: 22 Feb 2021, 05:08 Image

Angus posted this image. The corner of Calf hall road and Colne road, from Walmsgate, looking to Westgate. all the properties in the forefront have since been demolished. The buildings centre, are on Cavendish street, and Queen street . the facing shop Is A. Shaw's, and the one on the left is Dawsons.
This is a very unusual view and needs a bit of thought to weigh it up. The road immediately to the right with the setts is Calf Hall Road.
I remember Dawsons and A. Shaw's. My family and I resided at 9 Queen Street during the mid-1950's and left in 1958.

Thanks...Zeke Dutkiewicz, Chicago, USA.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 16 Nov 2021, 03:33
by Stanley
You're welcome Zeke....

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 17 Nov 2021, 04:59
by Stanley
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This derelict bank is an eyesore and appears to have become a forgotten corner. It's only value is as an asset on someone's books and we have to put up with ugliness being inflicted on us just at the time when we need a positive image in our streets. It's significant that the two major examples of urban blight are banks. At least the old Midland Bank looks good!
The Council should be inflicting punitive rates charges on these buildings to force movement in disposing of them. In the case of the old Yorkshire Bank I favour demolition and a garden on the site!

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Even when it was open it was not an attractive building.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 17 Nov 2021, 15:31
by MickBrett
Stanley wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 04:59 The Council should be inflicting punitive rates charges on these buildings to force movement in disposing of them.
My wife inherited her dad's tiny back to back house in Colne. She still had to pay council tax on it even though it was up for sale.
When it had stood empty for a year she had to pay double rate.

I wonder if commercial property owners get the same "incentive" as she did?

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 18 Nov 2021, 04:31
by Stanley
I don't know Mick. Whoever owns it must thing it's an adequate return to leave it empty. That's what I'd like the Council to do, make it very expensive for them to do that. We should not have to put up with this blight.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 19 Nov 2021, 05:48
by Stanley
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I did this pic of the Mersey looking downstream from Wellington Road Bridge in 1979. (I wasn't the first, if you go and look you'll find it caught the eye of many a snapper.) I wonder what it looks like now?

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And then I remembered. I had done almost the same shot during a visit in 2018.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 20 Nov 2021, 05:11
by Stanley
It struck me this morning looking at those two pics that the first with a a Nikon F and perhaps a 20mm lens is a far better lens than the Canon Sureshot I used for the bottom pic. Perhaps I should go back to the Nikon D200!

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 20 Nov 2021, 21:28
by MickBrett
Sadly, a forgotten corner...

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Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 21 Nov 2021, 03:51
by Stanley
That's a rarity now Mick...... I've never seen one before.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 22 Nov 2021, 04:42
by Stanley
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A general view of Barlick in about 1950 I think.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 23 Nov 2021, 05:31
by Stanley
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This poster was typical of the exhortations to workers to do better in the days when 'Britain's Bread hung by Lancashire's Thread'. This was after the war when we were fighting for economic survival..... A forgotten corner now that we have one of the strongest economies in the world! :upside_down:

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 24 Nov 2021, 04:52
by Stanley
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These posters in Bancroft warehouse dating back to WW2 show that attitudes to China have changed over the years.....

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 25 Nov 2021, 05:21
by Stanley
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Heavy snow on Manchester Road in 1977. Is this a forgotten corner? Will we ever see snow like this again? On the evidence we have, we may occasionally have a fall this heavy but regular winters like this are a thing of the past.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 26 Nov 2021, 04:54
by Stanley
Looking at the weather forecast I'm beginning to wonder if the question I posed yesterday might be answered!

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 27 Nov 2021, 04:53
by Stanley
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During WW2 this was the standard police car. (But without the modern direction indicators.) No sirens or flashing lights, just a chrome plated bell on the bumper.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 04:41
by Stanley
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When the canal first reached Barlick this was how the coal reached the mills, through the efforts of one horse. Definitely a forgotten corner.

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 29 Nov 2021, 04:48
by Stanley
Thinking about horse drawn transport on the canals in wooden boats, how does that compare with modern transport of bulk goods in terms of carbon footprint? :biggrin2:

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 29 Nov 2021, 07:06
by Wendyf
A couple of days ago I watchedTony Robinson's programme about the Thames at night which included a piece about a giant rapeseed processing facility where the seed was delivered by barge. They gave a figure for how many hgv journeys one barge saved but sadly I can't remember! :smile:

Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 30 Nov 2021, 04:35
by Stanley
I've watched tugs pushing six barges at once loaded with 30,000 tons of iron ore destined for Krupps at Essen passing through Dordrecht and marvelled at the efficiency and economy of dealing with bulk freight like that.

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Here's one loaded with slag I think on its way out to Rotterdam. (Note the name of the tug pushing them, Herkules V.)

See THIS for the nearest we ever got to that scale of efficiency, the Tom Puddings on the Aire and Calder Navigation. This string carries about 600 tons. A forgotten corner since 1985.

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Re: FORGOTTEN CORNERS

Posted: 30 Nov 2021, 21:43
by Whyperion
In all the idea of Levelling up the North, it has probably been forgotten that for many years Waddington's at Swinton (Yorks) was constantly trying to get the Don navigation and the like widened and in proper use for larger barges up to Sheffield from Hull. I think at one time one of the main cargoes was Sand - often for the many glassworks around the area. The economics of Rail vs Canal is interesting, but I have never worked out completely was is cheaper cost per ton, I suppose it depends on the closeness of the supply locations to the destination requirements.