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One of the two footbridges in Valley gardens over Butts Beck. The heavy cast iron girders supporting both are obviously a re-use and I was told they were from the railway bridge over the canal at Salterforth but After being reminded yesterday of the iron bridge that carried Rainhall Road over the railway I am almost certain that's where they came from. Those girders were the right depth and even the design cast into them is the same.
So, until someone convinces me differently that's my source for the girders under the footbridges in Valley Gardens.
It was a forgotten corner but thanks to Mick putting this image up on the site it is now remembered.
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The site of the old railway station in 1979. I think that's Fernbank Mill chimney in the background. We forget so quickly!
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No Christmas Tree of mobile antennas yet on the hose drying and practice tower. I think that is it's main use now, it is a long time since I have seen ladder training against the tower at the various levels. Siren is still in place on the tower then which apart from the BT pagers was the main indicator for a turnout.
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Another view on the same day in 1979. This was the one I was looking for actually... :biggrin2:
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I love these images. Many thanks, Stanley.
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I enjoy trawling the archives to find them Mick.

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The value of this map is that it shows the land sold to Barnoldswick UDC on 18 July 1969. (Shaded red, basically the tracks and the old goods siding.)
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Muriel Smith, one of my weavers at Bancroft, weaving in Bendem's shed at Wellhouse in 1982. This was the last chance saloon for Barlick weavers, when Bendem shut it was the end of the industry as far as we were concerned. So it's a genuine copper bottomed forgotten corner.
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Victoria Mill, Earby in 1954, the broken fly shaft. Johnny Pickles is on the right and the man stood in front of him in the pin stripe suit is Teddy Woods from Procter and Procter at Burnley. I think the man behind Johnny is Tommy Almond who was engineer at the mill. For the full story of how Newton was ignored when he said the shaft was broken see either the LTP or my book 'Brown and Pickles'. Round about this time there were several broken flywheel shafts. Many were due to load having been increased over the years and the old shafts eventually giving up the ghost.
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The shaft at Wellhouse Mill had broken in 1951. Here's Johnny and his men working on replacing the old shaft with one they had made in the shop. Big jobs and forgotten corners now. There isn't the engineering capacity or skill needed for big jobs like this available at the other end of a telephone line as was the case when Henry Brown Sons and Pickles was in business. A forgotten corner.
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Terry Gissing of Gissing and Lonsdale and one of his men working on the erection of the Jubilee Engine at Masson Mill, Matlock Bath. A reminder of a big job that took many years, moving the engine from Padiham to Matlock Bath and installing it there. The engine remains but The firm is no more, Terry is retired and Masson Mill has changed hands. Things change and are forgotten but the engine was saved from destruction.
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I know it takes some imagination but this ginnel at the top of Newtown was the main route out of the town in the direction of Skipton and Bracewell before Craven Court was built blocking it off. This happened after Philip Street/Back Lane had lost its status as the main West to East route through the town with the advent of Church Street,
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Seen in Los Angeles. I have no explanation for it!
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They supplied what it says on the poster, Kosher Burritos. Apparently it was quite a popular outlet.
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Not Barlick today but Milnrow at Rochdale. This image is a forgotten corner on so many levels. Today the railway lines are still there but the M62 motorway flies overhead on the junction 21 complex. The two mills in the background, Ellenroad and Garfield (demolished in 1969) were in full production so this image must be circa 1950. Ellenroad went in 1980, only the chimney and engine house remain.
The railway train is unusual, the fact it is double-headed means that it is almost certainly a holiday special.
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Gledstone South lodge. Designed by Lutyens and roofed with Coniston Slate this is possibly the best building in Craven, The slating itself deserves more attention than it gets as none of the lead flashing on the corners of the hipped roof is visible. Billy Entwistle of Barnoldswick pointed this out to me. He said he worked on the roof when he was an apprentice.
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Donkey stones. Hard on the left (Lion Brand and moulded), soft on the right (a natural stone). Totally forgotten today, 'donkey stoning' the edges of steps and round features like coal holes (In themselves a forgotten corner) was one of the ways housewives demonstrated to the world that they were on top of their job.
Another way to prove this was to have the whitest washing on the street. There is a whole social history of housework to be uncovered if you dig into it.
PS. I suspect the name 'donkey stone' originated from the fact that an early brand of artificial moulded stone like the Lion Brand above used a donkey as the image.
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My mum used to donkey stone the front step when I was a nipper in Bradford.
Dad used to sharpen the carving knife on the doorstep too, it was a sign that we were having a joint of meat (which we usually weren't) :laugh5:
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You've given me today's forgotten corner Mick.
I think it was Ernie Roberts who told me about a man who made a precarious living as a knife sharpener in Barlick. He had no equipment and so used to take the knives he was given round the corner to sharpen them on a kerb stone..... This is now a forgotten corner!

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A 'proper' Italian knife grinder.
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Standing stone behind the wall and behind the bungalow at Standing Stone Gate at Whitemoor. This insignificant stone is pre-medieval in date and marks the junction of three county boundaries, North Yorkshire, West Riding and Lancashire. It is on a medieval road that fell out of use in 1840 when the canal company built Whitemoor reservoir and re-aligned the roads at what was always an important junction.
I hope someone is looking after this important relic. If you look carefully you'll see a flash of white beyond the stone. This is the back end of my greatly loved terrier Eigg.
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MickBrett wrote: 12 Jan 2023, 15:38 mum used to donkey stone the front step when I was a nipper
Any reference to Donkey Stone takes me to this brief clip. Based on an incident from a member on here I think. :smile:


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First time I've seen that David.... Very funny! Accurate as well, that was Lancashire Laddering.....

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A more gentle form of advertising from the inter-war years. This was state of the art high pressure advertising in the 1920s. Regrettably, now a forgotten corner.
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Effective though as all vacuum cleaners are referred to as Hoovers, even if they are Dysons, so have that James! Snake Oil Salesmanship doesn't always work. Invisible dust and digital motors, I think not! :extrawink:
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Stanley wrote: 15 Jan 2023, 03:34 Accurate as well, that was Lancashire Laddering.....
Did you notice that 'wornlimproject' includes Milnrow spelt backwards? I bet you probably know the film maker. :smile:
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No I didn't David and yes, you are perhaps right.
Tom, if you see this, any ideas?

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The offices at Barnsey shed in 1982. At that time Stephen Pickles of Long Ing shed owned Barnsey as well.
I doubt if anyone else bothered to do a picture of the offices but it was part of the recording I did of the town for many years. Someone might find that this forgotten corner is just what they need. (Like Matthew Engel did. :biggrin2: )

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On the same day I snapped this as well. Notice the specific wording about emissions from chimneys. I've never seen that before and suspect there must have been a reason for mentioning it. All part of the forgotten corner that was Barnsey Shed.
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Worlim is Peter Tathams son (hope he doesn't mind me identifying him)now well into his 70s the video was a true story when he was on a chimney with Wally Gregory 👍
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