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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 Oct 2016, 03:38
by Stanley
Seven inches diameter Gloria.
Sorry China, nothing to do with weaving. Click to enlarge..... Read the small print!
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 Oct 2016, 08:38
by Gloria
Is it part of the Wilby Supplementary Governor??
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 Oct 2016, 09:53
by Tizer
Have you just made that up Gloria?
I think it's the the bit that they forgot to fit during the assembly of the spaceship that has just crashed on its attempted landing on Mars. It was a critical piece of the astrolabe and had to be so finely made that the only man who could do it was a monk in the Barlick monastery hidden away in the mountains of Middle England. When the time came to launch the spaceship nobody could find their way back to the monastery so they had to go ahead without it.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 Oct 2016, 10:05
by Wendyf
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 Oct 2016, 11:16
by Gloria
Ha ha no I haven't made it up...I looked on t'internet. Don't know if it's right, but it does sound good.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 Oct 2016, 17:03
by Tizer
Ah, here we go...James Lumb of Perseverance Engine Works, Elland, Calderdale, maker of stationary engines According to Grace's Guide. So it's one of his bits for an engine - but I don't know what the bit is other than a gear/cogwheel.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 03:26
by Stanley
Gloria is on the right track. Forget about Engines and Governors. James Lumb made something else that was very widely used.
Think recording more than control.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 08:06
by Cathy
And here I was wondering if it was part of the lock of your 'home safe' Stanley, obviously not... haha

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 08:45
by Gloria
This took a bit of finding
Lumbs Patent Portable Speed and Variation Recorder????
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 09:35
by Tizer
It looks like Gloria has the answer with her `Lumb's Patent Portable Speed and Variation Recorder'. This image is in the James Lumb web page on Grace's Guide and the mystery object appears to be on the drum...

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 05:22
by Stanley
Exactly right Gloria! I didn't think anyone would get it. The gear wheel was in the drive train between the pulley at the bottom and the governor. Different sizes could be fitted to accurately translate the RPM on the drive to the recorder so it was accurate.
If you look at Charlie Meecham's pic of the engine in 1970 when it was still running the mill you'll see the Lumb Recorder in the centre in front of the LP cylinder with the oil can on top.
Just for interest here's the pic he took of the mill on the same day.
Note the bus parked near the base of the chimney. This came from Wigan every morning bringing women in to work at the mill. The driver worked as well and took them home at night while their children were cared for in the nursery attached to the mill. 'Britain's Bread hung by Lancashire's Thread' as late as 1970!
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 08:54
by Gloria
Wouldn't have got it Stanley if it wasn't for your clue.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 10:07
by Tizer
Well done, Gloria!
Now then, what's this all about...

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 12:27
by David Whipp
Wheel Tax evasion...
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 16:41
by Gloria
A wild guess....rice thresher???
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 22:15
by Cathy
Is it meant to illustrate a particular progress in farming?
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 02 Nov 2016, 01:39
by chinatyke
Unicycle prototype.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 02 Nov 2016, 03:33
by Stanley
Ikea delivering a flat pack one wheeled barrow.....
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 02 Nov 2016, 08:15
by PanBiker
From the sled to the wheel?
The bloke looks East Asian, Chinese maybe?
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 02 Nov 2016, 10:01
by Tizer
Some creative answers there, thank you! Ian is right to suggest `Chinese', but the first one to respond, David Whipp, has given a concise answer to part of the puzzle - the man is evading wheel tax. Well done David, was it a guess or are you hiding a greater knowledge of this mystery? However there still remains the question of why the man has the wheel off his barrow? If he can't put the wheel on without evading tax then he can't use his barrow. Catch 22. Any suggestions?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 02 Nov 2016, 11:20
by David Whipp
Knock me down with a feather! That was just the first daft answer I thought of...
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 02 Nov 2016, 11:29
by David Whipp
I now know that it's part of a collection of 19th century photographs of Shanghai by English photographer William Saunders...
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 02 Nov 2016, 11:35
by Tizer
I found the image in a an article on the Web together with an explanation. The barrows were used as taxis for ferrying people about. They had to take the wheel off the barrow to avoid the wheel tax - but where did that tax have effect?
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 02 Nov 2016, 11:47
by David Whipp
How to take the tax out of taxi, if that's not too taxing a question...
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 04:06
by Stanley
Crossing a bridge or ferry?