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Tripps wrote: ↑17 Mar 2023, 15:13 Andrew Bridgen MP is asking a question about vaccine injuries. He is very concerned about the matter. He called for the vaccine programme to be stopped.

So am I - and I've yet to reach a conclusion on the matter. I'm far from it.

I know it's Friday afternoon, but there is not a single MP of any party on the benches opposite. I don't think I've ever seen that before.

Some will say he's not worth listening to at all. I don't know.

Andrew Bridges Conservative MP is rocking the big pharma boat. Why Labour vacated the chamber I don't know unless Pfizer and co. who have been indemnified by the government may be subject to a class action on the risk factors laying the government of the day open to £Billions of potential compensation. Bridges gave almost 15 minutes worth of facts on the risk factors relating to the current Omicron variant none of which were addressed in the answer. Principally he was pointing that the risk of ending up in hospital from the effects of the vaccine was 8 times greater that of of omicron itself in most age groups. He goes on to say "Why are we spending £Billions on making people ill and loading up the NHS just to feed the profits of big Pharma?".

Have I reached a conclusion? YES I have, Unless the variant changes to something more dangerous I will giving any boosters the miss the next time round.

Disclaimer. The above is NOT advice just my feeling on the subject.

Tripps wrote: ↑17 Mar 2023, 15:13 Andrew Bridgen MP is asking a question about vaccine injuries. He is very concerned about the matter. He called for the vaccine progamme to be stopped.
So am I - and I've yet to reach a conclusion on the matter. I'm far from it.
I know it's Friday afternoon, but there is not a single MP of any party on the benches opposite. I don't think I've ever seen that before.
Some will say he's not worth listening to at all. I don't know.

`Expert comments on safety and regulation of COVID-19 vaccines (in light of Andrew Bridgen being suspended as a Conservative MP over his comments about COVID-19 vaccines)' Science Media Centre

`Andrew Bridgen MP’s false claims put lives at risk' Full Fact

Thanks Tizer.

The posts above illustrate what I was saying the last time I posted. I'm quite well informed about some things but am certainly not a bio-chemist and therefore no judge of matters like these.
I understand Ken's opinion and have noted what others have said but I will not be judging them as I don't have the skills. Nothing I say should be interpreted as criticism of them. I shall do what I always have done, accept the majority opinion and the subsequent advice I am given and therefore take all the boosters I am offered. I'm too ignorant to do anything else....

These days I prefer not to comment but am thankful when Tiz does

Andrew Bridgen MP had the whip withdrawn for his earlier comments about the Wuhan and early Delta virus variants. This time he was quite specific in stating the latest Omicron variant. All it needs is Chris Whitty Chief Medical Officer to say "its a load of rubbish" and that would be the end of the matter. All we are getting now is silence not even the promise to investigate. Whitty as the UK government's Chief Medical Adviser and head of the public health profession must have all these numbers at his finger tips so why all the foot dragging?

Well - I'm saying no more. Each must, and will, make their own decision in the matter.


I've just looked again at the Andrew Bridgen speech and note with some concern that Bridgen's sole supporter was Christopher Chope MP a fully paid up member of the awkward squad.

PS - It is reported that Youtube took this video down - then reinstated it when it was pointed out that it was an unedited part of the proceedings of the House of Commons.

Andrew Bridgen. To use the current much over used phrase. The Great British people have spoken. I shall now enter my own vaccine purdah where I shan't mention it again....... until next time.

I omitted seconding Sue's remark about Peter yesterday. I too owe him a vote of thanks as he made my life easier as well by presenting an alternative view.....

Now I've got my new Powerline adapters I can follow what's going on here. I was down to 2Mbps for the last couple of days. I'm glad my post helped people with their views on vaccines and Bridgen.

Regarding Chris Whitty, he's been the target of a lot of abuse and It's not surprising he now keeps a low profile.

I've been having very unreliable service from my powerline adaptors. Affecting the Smart TV and Freesat box. The cure has been to re-install them but having read your post Peter I bit the bullet and ordered two new ones.
(Sod's Law of course has meant that since I spent the money, the old ones have been working fine.....The next thing that happens will be that I shall find the problem with catch-up wasn't down to the adaptors but lousy IT maintenance at the BBC!)
I can understand it if Chris Whitty is keeping stum.

An old friend made me aware of this journal article published in February... (Note: n-3 is the same as omega-3)
`Association between blood N-3 fatty acid levels and the risk of coronavirus disease 2019 in the UK Biobank' Am. J. Clinical Nutrition
It's very long and detailed but I've copied a few important bits below. The `bottom line' is keep up your omega-3 levels!

Background
The role of nutritional status and the risk of contracting and/or experiencing adverse outcomes from severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection are unclear. Preliminary studies suggest that higher n-3 PUFA intakes are protective.
Objectives
This study aimed to compare the risk of 3 coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) outcomes (testing positive for SARS-CoV-2, hospitalization, and death) as a function of the baseline plasma DHA levels.
Conclusions
In conclusion, in this study, we confirmed the findings of previous investigations that a low n-3 status was associated with an increased risk of hospitalization with COVID-19. We extended these findings by also showing a reduced risk of testing positive with the virus and providing evidence that the risk of death may also be reduced. Furthermore, we identified the omega-3 Index levels associated with the least (<4%) and greatest (>8%) protection from COVID-19. Taken together, these results suggest that increased intakes of n-3 (from oily fish and/or taking n-3 supplements) should be encouraged to increase the omega-3 Index and possibly reduce the risk of COVID-19 and perhaps other future pulmonary viral infections.

Dare I? Go on be a devil.

Good stuff Tizer. Pity it was The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition from data collected in the UK 1 January, 2020, and 23 March, 2021, Why not a UK publication? Its lost a bit of its relevance against todays variant but the fear now is that deaths and hospitalisations are going to arise from people who have long standing breathing and lung function. So in this respect the advantages of omega 3 are more relevant. Why isn't Chris Whitty and his team making these recommendations.

Is big pharma pulling the strings?

As you may remember I have been advocating addressing intake levels of Omega-3 (long chain) ever since I read Susan Allport's book 'Queen of Fats'. The thesis of that book was more particularly the balance of long chain Omega-3 fat in the diet against the 'bad fats'.
Without banging on too much, the problem with that strategy and the reason why the recommended dosage of Long chain Omega-3 recommended by NICE is only half the level advocated by the researchers is that there isn't enough in nature for everyone to have the proper dosage.
This may be the reason why Chris Whitty isn't shouting the advantages of fish oils from the roof tops.

Very efficient here at the Infusion Suite, it's a relatively new building too so everything is clean and shiny. They've emptied an armful out into various bottles and now pumping something else into me. A 30 minute wait and another armful out into bottles and that should be me done, back home in time for second breakfast

Well, that didn't go as expected, another drug to add to my list of reactions. BP dropped like a stone 2 minutes after the jab.

I read that Kev and realise that I must be very lucky.... My BP is always in what I call 16 year old lad country.....
(Long may it continue! Touch wood....)

Big Kev wrote: ↑21 Mar 2023, 08:18 Well, that didn't go as expected, another drug to add to my list of reactions. BP dropped like a stone 2 minutes after the jab.

Kev have you filled in a Yellow card to record your adverse reaction? It looks like the hospital should do it but you never know.

It's on my record along with the other adverse reactions Ken

plaques wrote: ↑20 Mar 2023, 10:55 Dare I? Go on be a devil.
Good stuff Tizer. Pity it was The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition from data collected in the UK 1 January, 2020, and 23 March, 2021, Why not a UK publication? Its lost a bit of its relevance against todays variant but the fear now is that deaths and hospitalisations are going to arise from people who have long standing breathing and lung function. So in this respect the advantages of omega 3 are more relevant. Why isn't Chris Whitty and his team making these recommendations.
Is big pharma pulling the strings?

Why not a UK publication? The authors are Americans working in American universities but using data from the UK Biobank. We share out anonymised health data with authors worldwide. Also, it's difficult enough to do the work on one variant let alone all of them. As is normal in science there will now be other research groups testing whether or not they confirm the results of this study and they will probably extend it to other variants and even different viruses such as influenza.

By the way, in the same journal issue as often happens there is a comment article on the above work. It's written by Philip Calder, a well-known omega-3 researcher at Southampton university, UK. This is the final para of his comment...

In summary, using the large UK BioBank dataset, Harris et al. [1] report that higher DHA status is associated with lower risk of testing positive for infection with SARS-CoV-2 and of being hospitalized with COVID-19. There is also an indication that higher DHA status is associated with reduced risk of mortality for COVID-19, although this effect was attenuated at the very highest status level. These findings suggest that consuming more long-chain omega-3 fatty acids (EPA and DHA) should be encouraged as a strategy to reduce the impact of the ongoing SARS-CoV-2 pandemic and of future respiratory virus infection outbreaks. Increased intake of EPA and DHA can be achieved through consumption of fatty fish or use of supplements containing EPA and DHA.
Calder (Bioactive omega-3 fatty acids are associated with reduced risk and severity of SARS-CoV-2 infection)

Philip Calder.

Professor Philip Calder BSc(Hons), PhD, DPhil, RNutr, FSB, FAfN is Professor of Nutritional Immunology within Medicine at the University of Southampton. His work aims to understand how nutrition affects the functioning of the human body.

Quite a few research scientist are starting to look at diet as a way of boosting immunology response. Professor Tim Spector of Zoe has a new app letting people comment about bowel function medication etc. I'm not sure whether it requires a membership fee or the input action is free. His covid data was well in front of the governments and possibly more accurate.

"Quite a few research scientist are starting to look at diet as a way of boosting immunology response."
Good. I am not a scientist but I've been banging on about trace elements and micro-nutrients in soils for years..... (As well as long chain Omega-3.)

The harbinger of doom strikes again. Another of Dr John Campbell discussion papers (not peer reviewed) from a Norwegian university who appear to have found a correlation between the number of vaccine boosters given to patients and the rise in excess deaths. This study covered all the advanced countries and gave the same correlation in all of them. Initially they say that the vaccine save many lives but as people accumulated more booster jabs then the excess deaths began to show itself. These deaths were not confined to a single condition but spread across a whole spectrum of illnesses with the only common factor being the number of boosters.

Obviously I'm not in a position to comment on the findings but at a personal level with the initial vaccine plus three boosters under my belt I can only quote Dirty Harry " Well punk do you feel lucky"

Sally is not out of the woods yet with her cough. It's wearing her down and she says she feels worse now than before she had the antibiotics course. She has managed to get another appointment with a doctor this afternoon.

MRI scans are the order of the day, I'm sitting in the Costa coffee shop in Tesco at Rawtenstall while Paulette has her head in a scanner. I'm awaiting an appointment to do the same (not sure where I'll be going for it though).
The one here at Rawtenstall is in a 40ft trailer on the car park of the health centre.

Chest infection confirmed for Sally. Second round of different antibiotics and a phial for a sputum test to check the target.

Bog standard Penicillin still works for me which is what Sally had first time round.