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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 28 Oct 2017, 08:03
by PanBiker
Eyelets, Sally has a tin full all different colours.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 03:34
by Stanley
I read that caption as 'sniffers' when in fact it reads 'snffers'. So my candle snuffers were very close!
Sorry Ian but Maz almost has it. Not rivets Maz but very closely related. Look hard at the pic.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 08:16
by Gloria
Are they bif and tub rivets??

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 10:57
by chinatyke
Stanley wrote: 29 Oct 2017, 03:34 I read that caption as 'sniffers' when in fact it reads 'snffers'. So my candle snuffers were very close!
Yes. You are right.
P said: "Just a word on the bomb snuffers. Actually incendiary bomb snuffers 1940. Came across this image in a book but decided to look it up on Google. Found it straight away but thought I would make it more difficult by doing a photo shop mirror image. Even after all this messing about the caption still appears, didn't know that!. Which all goes to show Google is watching you."

Sorry, I missed his posting too.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 11:27
by chinatyke
Stanley wrote: 29 Oct 2017, 03:34 Sorry Ian but Maz almost has it. Not rivets Maz but very closely related. Look hard at the pic.
There is a slot in the side. Are they toggles like you get on lanyards and anoraks?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 11:55
by Gloria
Riv nuts??

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 01:44
by chinatyke
Gloria wrote: 29 Oct 2017, 11:55Riv nuts??
I see what you mean. I'd never heard of them before. Nor had I heard of bif and tub rivets. Isn't it good what you learn on here?

http://www.aimfasteners.com/about_rivnu ... faC5zdx13g

http://www.bollhoff.co.uk/en/uk/fastene ... rivnut.php

bifurcated and tubular rivet co What a name for a company!

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 03:23
by Stanley
Engineer Gloria has it right this time. I'd never heard of bif and tub either. They are King Klik anchors which you install in the hole like a pop rivet. Hardly ever used but when the occasion arises they are a godsend.

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 08:13
by Gloria
Bif and tub rivets are short for bifurcated and tubular rivets. Very popular prior to pop rivets.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 05:17
by Stanley
Ah! Thanks Gloria, I have both of them, I thought it was another breed of snap rivets.

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I know you know this one Gloria, let's see if anyone else remembers.....

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 31 Oct 2017, 07:19
by Marilyn
Can you make a spark with it?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 01 Nov 2017, 04:47
by Stanley
No Maz, it's a purely mechanical function. I thought the brain cells would snap into gear with this one!

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 06:23
by Stanley
I think you'd better tell them what it is Gloria......

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 10:43
by Gloria
It's an alignment tool for two pieces of metal with holes in. Commonly used in aircraft production.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 02 Nov 2017, 12:33
by plaques
For setting the gears on your first Babbage digital computer, or since we've had a few comments on them things with flying weights on steam engines it could to do with setting these gears.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 03 Nov 2017, 04:46
by Stanley
No P, they were used in the pre-formed holes for the rivets in metal sections of an aircraft. If you didn't use them the plates tended to stretch under the pressure of the rivets and became misaligned. On a riveted boiler nuts and bolts were used for the same purpose, even inch thick steel will deform. A few would be put in at strategic points and the rivets clinched home between them.

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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 04 Nov 2017, 05:40
by Stanley
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This pic is so mysterious that this is a cry for help really. I don't know where I got this from but it's a nice pic of a Co-op somewhere. Has anyone got any ideas?

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 04 Nov 2017, 22:30
by Tripps
I thought that pic rang a bell - and I found this in a book I have of the Jubilee History of Failsworth Industrial Society published in 1909 to mark the 50th anniversary of its founding.

Close - but no cigar. :smile:
Failsworth Coop.jpg
PS. - I can't believe I'm doing this at 10.30 pm on a Saturday night.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 02:15
by chinatyke
It isn't the same shop, look at the upper windows.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 03:23
by Stanley
Thanks for the try David.
China, that's why he didn't get a cigar....

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 08:08
by plaques
Hiding away from TV's 'Strictly' I scanned Google's Images for Old Co op buildings and straight away up popped an picture exactly like yours. Opened it up only to find it was posted from OG some years ago and asked "does anyone know where it is". Perhaps if you could give us a clue as to how you came by these pictures then we might be able to follow a trail backwards!

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 11:08
by Tripps
chinatyke wrote: 05 Nov 2017, 02:15 It isn't the same shop, look at the upper windows.
Quite.

I think quite possibly, that every Coop shop must have once had a similar photo.
I pulled out all the stops to get that photo in. Photographed it with my Wileyfox smartphone - emailed it to myself - downloaded the attachment -then uploaded it to this thread. Quite an achievement for me. :smile:

Also checked out the name Pelaw - thinking it might be a clue since it is a town in Co Durham. However I'd forgotten it is also an own brand name for Coop products.
Pelaw polish

That took me to more information about Blanco than I ever thought existed, and 'triggered' some long ago memories. Not only did they make you use this ridiculous substance - you had to buy it yourself! Web cleaning with Blanco

Then finally I remembered there used to be a good flapping track in the town. What do you know it's still going, and looking good. Added to the bucket list as another excuse to go back to the North East Pelaw Grange

TV's rubbish on Saturday nights. This is more interesting :smile:

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 13:09
by chinatyke
Tripps wrote: 05 Nov 2017, 11:08 Quite.
Tripps wrote:
Close - but no cigar. :smile:
I missed that bit. I'll blame it on my 25p specs or senility!

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 15:08
by Wendyf
What's slightly more worrying is that Tripps still thinks it is Saturday night....

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS

Posted: 05 Nov 2017, 18:02
by Tripps
Correction:-

TV's rubbish on Saturday nights, which is when I made these discoveries. This is more interesting.

There - fixed it for you. . . :smile:

"Reading maketh a full man, conference a ready man, and writing an exact man".
Francis Bacon Essays (1625), "Of Studies".


I'm sure he meant to put person instead of man but maybe he didn't.