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Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 28 May 2019, 11:42
by Tripps
I always considered a gill to be half a pint (10 fl oz - Imperial measure)
Coincidentally (again), there was a question on Tipping Point yesterday 'how many noggins make a pint? They gave the answer as ' four' - which makes one equal to half a gill.
Situation not helped by the USA pint being 16 fl oz. If you're talking whisky - then that's a different matter.
Whisky noggins
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 28 May 2019, 11:57
by PanBiker
I have always considered a Gill to be a quarter pint. It would seem the Noggin is the same.
Noggin
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 28 May 2019, 12:12
by Tripps
It's hard to argue with the reference you give, and I won't, but I know that if I asked for a gill in any pub in the North West - I'd be served with a half pint.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 28 May 2019, 12:31
by Whyperion
I always thought a noggin was a short piece of thick timber supporting a purlin and a rafter in roof building or between joists in floor /ceiling frames.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 29 May 2019, 01:10
by chinatyke
I think there are different noggins and gills depending on where you are. Even one on-line dictionary defines a noggin as a quarter of a pint and a gill as half a pint. But in the textile mills the gill was a quarter of a pint and a noggin was a quarter of a gill = one sixteenth of a pint. Sorry, we're going off topic. What was the milk dispenser called? (Ours was called George Lawson!)
Whyperion, you're thinking of a nogging.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 29 May 2019, 02:40
by Stanley
Sorry, you've got close but nobody has it yet.
If you ask for a gill in a pub you'll get half a pint but it started off in life as a quarter of a pint. I always thought of a noggin as smaller than a quarter of a pint but never knew the exact quantity. Always thought of it as a spirit measure.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 29 May 2019, 07:37
by Bodger
Piggin, nowt to do wi porcine creatures. ?
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 May 2019, 03:38
by Stanley
No Bodge but you are in the right area. It was a plain tin cylinder with a copper handle that was hooked so that it could hang on the rim of the kit under the lid. Called a 'lading tin' and made in different sizes. The genuine originals have a blob of solder on the side with the inspection mark of the Inspector of Weights and Measures stamp impressed in it and the year number.
I used to have a set of three, pint, half pint and gill. Don't know where they went to.....
Next one?
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 May 2019, 06:16
by Cathy
Ladin tin. So instead of just being a Ladle to transfer a small amount of liquid, was it made into a jug made out if tin to transfer larger amounts, a Ladin tin?
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 May 2019, 06:18
by Stanley
The key thing about the lading tin Cathy was that it was calibrated so that when brim full it was a definite amount. It made it easy for the customer to be sure they were getting a fair deal. In this example, a pint of milk.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 May 2019, 09:13
by Tizer
Yes, this is a flower...but from what? It's about 3 inches in length.

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 May 2019, 10:05
by Wendyf
Is it a rhododendron or azalea flower? It's that time of year.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 May 2019, 10:47
by Cathy
An Iris.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 May 2019, 11:58
by chinatyke
String beans - those long green beans?
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 May 2019, 12:46
by Big Kev
Courgette?
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 May 2019, 13:53
by Gloria
I agree....courgette.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 May 2019, 15:54
by Tizer
No correct answers yet - keep trying!

Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 May 2019, 16:08
by Wendyf
A weigela?
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 30 May 2019, 20:03
by StoneRoad
Is it a foxglove ?
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 31 May 2019, 01:49
by Stanley
God knows.... Is it a Lily?
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 31 May 2019, 03:50
by Cathy
A lilac coloured trumpet flower.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 31 May 2019, 07:40
by PostmanPete
I'll guess at an Ipomoea - the 'morning glory' ?
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 31 May 2019, 09:14
by Tizer
StoneRoad almost has it with `foxglove' but that word alone doesn't identify it fully. It's not related to the foxglove in our gardens.
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 31 May 2019, 15:16
by Wendyf
Is it in your garden now Tiz?
Penstemon?
Re: MYSTERY OBJECTS
Posted: 31 May 2019, 16:01
by Tizer
No, we picked up the flower in our local park in Taunton. Not many people will have this in their gardens!
