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In the mid to late 1800s James Widdup and family lived at Sandhole at a farm of 12 acres. Does anybody know where this is and if the farm still exists. This is the ancestral home of my Widdup visitor in September

I found this map circa 1888

Still there Sue but called Sand Hall on current OS maps. I was thrown by the name Moss House on that map, as the Moss House Farm I know is the other side of Foulridge. That Moss House now seems to be called Holly Bush Farm! Some lovely walking in that area.

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Sand Hole > Sand Hall. Can see it from our house. A lovely spot providing they don't build the by-pass road. Moss House > Holly Bush farm. My friend lives next door at Holly Bush Barn. Keeps and stables horses. Wendy could well know them.

Wendyf wrote: ↑12 Jul 2019, 16:11 Still there Sue but called Sand Hall on current OS maps. I was thrown by the name Moss House on that map, as the Moss House Farm I know is the other side of Foulridge. That Moss House now seems to be called Holly Bush Farm! Some lovely walking in that area.

https://www.onthemarket.com/details/849006/

Thank you Wendy and for the link, how fabulous. I have found a couple of my ancestral homes like that.

In fact thanks all who responded. Margaret a d Roxana will be over the moon

I doubt if it will have looked anything like that in the 19th century!

I found a photo in my Colne archive! I think this will be from the 1970's, it looks like a working farm.

Fay Oldland lists Sand Hall amongst the historic houses of Foulridge in her book "The Story of Foulridge".

Sand Hall

1606 Sandall 1708 Sand Hoall 1843 Sand Hole.

The name derives from the sand deposits left by the glaciers, being originally the site of a sand pit. This small sand quarry was used in the construction of nearby Slipper Hill Reservoir. Throughout the 18th & 19th centuries the name was spelt Sand Hole, but the earliest reference in the Colne Parish Registers on the 7 Feb 1606 records the baptism of "Maria, daughter of Christopher Smythe of Sandall. A century later the baptism of "Ann, daughter of John Emmott of Sand Hoall appears, suggesting perhaps a transitionary spelling between hall and hole, so the name may well have been Sand Hall originally.
The present house was certainly there in the early 1700s and a house was there a hundred years before. The 1851 census lists James Widdop, aged 50, farmer of 12 acres, his wife Mary and six children. Over the centuries occupants have included the Emmotts "of Foulridge", Wilkinsons, Halsteads and John Robinson described as "butcher, Towngate & farmer, Sandholes in the 1920's. The property was still a farm until 1978 when it was purchased by Ashley Holt.

Very interesting especially the name Wilkinson. My contact is descended from Thomas son of the James mentioned. He was initially married to Jane Wilkinson in 1857 but she did not go to America with him in 1858. I am trying to find out what happened to her. Thomas divorced her in 1861 and then remarried

There is a Jane Widdup born about 1836 and married, living alone as head of household in Colne in the 1861 census. Birthplace given as Broach Flat which is Foulridge.
Jane Wilkinson aged 5 in the 1841 census living at Great Broach Foulridge. Higher Broach in the 1851 census
She marries again at St Peter's Burnley December 25th 1863 to a Joseph Cox, calling herself a widow. Certificate is on Ancestry but I can't download it properly on my tablet.

Transcribed as Jane Widday for the marriage (father Henry Wilkinson).

Wendyf wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 09:12 There is a Jane Widdup born about 1836 and married, living alone as head of household in Colne in the 1861 census. Birthplace given as Broach Flat which is Foulridge.
Jane Wilkinson aged 5 in the 1841 census living at Great Broach Foulridge. Higher Broach in the 1851 census
She marries again at St Peter's Burnley December 25th 1863 to a Joseph Cox, calling herself a widow. Certificate is on Ancestry but I can't download it properly on my tablet.

Transcribed as Jane Widday for the marriage (father Henry Wilkinson).

Interesting Wendy.

I opened the image of the register, it clearly says Jane Widdup. It all checks out, found the census images. Henry remarried before 1861 and died in the 1870s

You ladies are like active little ferrets! Nice.
I worked with Fay at Pendle Heritage. She smoked like a chimbley in those days.



Having a fag break in 1982. (Can't possibly be 37 years ago......)

Sue wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 08:38 Very interesting especially the name Wilkinson. My contact is descended from Thomas son of the James mentioned. He was initially married to Jane Wilkinson in 1857 but she did not go to America with him in 1858. I am trying to find out what happened to her. Thomas divorced her in 1861 and then remarried

Just found out Janes mother died in November 1858. I wonder if she did not want go to America either because her mother was dying or because she did not want to leave her father alone

Her father married again pretty quickly! He has a new wife called Nancy by 1861!