My Harrison Roots

[triciacockshott]

Hi I am just trying to take my family tree back even further, I have got to George Harrison 1641-1716 married Isobell Preston , I think i have this right that he is the father of Stephen Harrison 1685-1747. Can anyone help?
I am the daughter of Harrison Carradice, my Great Grandmas was Bridgit Harrison who married John Carradice.

[Moh]

That is as far as I can get in my hubby's tree - trouble is most of the church records were not kept during the civil war. Many people guess but that is not right.

[Stanley]

Welcome to the site Tricia. Keep digging and talking to us. It's amazing how eventually someone clocks the discussion and comes up with something new.

[Harrisa]

Hi everyone. I am new to this site having just found it. My name is Ann Harrison. I am a descendant of Richard Harrison who was born in/near Tosside in/near 1824 and emigrated to Canada. I will be travelling to the are in April and would love some hints or ideas on where to pick up info on family lineage. Thanks.

[Wendyf]

Welcome to the site Harrisa, there is a lot of Harrison information on here so it's worth using the search button! Local libraries are good places to start.

[Stanley]

Look in the masthead Harrisa, thre's a box labelled search. If you put Harrison in there you'll have enough to keep you going for a while. I'll bump the Harrison Index entries for you to start on. Look for the topic in active topics.

[ChrisK]

In the early 1960s Harrison Brothers split up when Jack took his money out and invested it in the dairy at Accrington when he and others formed a partnership and bought it. Very soon sold to Associated Dairies. Billy carried on with one wagon on general haulage and I drove it for him for about four years but then got fed up with the tramp and went back to the dairy. Billy had one son, John and I can't remember Jack and his wife having any kids. Corrine(?) taught at Springfield School Earby for a long time. I think Billy died in the late 1960s, I don't know about Jack.



Billy and son John at Morecambe in 1961. (click for full size)

Hi - I've just discovered this forum while searching for news of relatives (& having time on my hands at the moment due to Covid!). Corinne (nee Spencer) was my cousin. She was born in Lane Bottom, Walsden (nr Todmorden). I stayed with Jack and Corinne on many occasions at their home in Elslack and have some very happy memories of that. You are correct in saying that Jack and Corinne did not have any children, and also (another post) that Jack was 'albino' - or at least had an exceptionally fair complexion. Sadly, they subsequently divorced, in the 1970's from recollection. Corinne subsequently moved to Fence (nr Higham) and remarried. As an interesting 'aside', Jack and Corinne were very friendly with Professor Dan Gill who was a larger than life geologist with a distinguished career in the Himalayas & elsewhere. He also used to stay with them in Elslack, but our paths never crossed and I just knew him from conversations with Jack and Corinne as 'the professor'. Some years later, while studying for a geology degree, I discovered by chance that the professor that I was studying under was Jack and Corinne's 'professor'! I remember the real welcome that the Gill family subsequently gave me. I don't know if Corinne is still alive or not. She was quite a bit older than me, and I've spent most of my life overseas and have lost touch.

[Stanley]

Welcome to the site Chris. Thanks for info about Corrine.
Jack as definitely albino, had red eyes and superb night vision but could hardly see during the day.

[JKG]

In the early 1960s Harrison Brothers split up when Jack took his money out and invested it in the dairy at Accrington when he and others formed a partnership and bought it. Very soon sold to Associated Dairies. Billy carried on with one wagon on general haulage and I drove it for him for about four years but then got fed up with the tramp and went back to the dairy. Billy had one son, John and I can't remember Jack and his wife having any kids. Corrine(?) taught at Springfield School Earby for a long time. I think Billy died in the late 1960s, I don't know about Jack.



Billy and son John at Morecambe in 1961. (click for full size)

Hi - I've just discovered this forum while searching for news of relatives (& having time on my hands at the moment due to Covid!). Corinne (nee Spencer) was my cousin. She was born in Lane Bottom, Walsden (nr Todmorden). I stayed with Jack and Corinne on many occasions at their home in Elslack and have some very happy memories of that. You are correct in saying that Jack and Corinne did not have any children, and also (another post) that Jack was 'albino' - or at least had an exceptionally fair complexion. Sadly, they subsequently divorced, in the 1970's from recollection. Corinne subsequently moved to Fence (nr Higham) and remarried. As an interesting 'aside', Jack and Corinne were very friendly with Professor Dan Gill who was a larger than life geologist with a distinguished career in the Himalayas & elsewhere. He also used to stay with them in Elslack, but our paths never crossed and I just knew him from conversations with Jack and Corinne as 'the professor'. Some years later, while studying for a geology degree, I discovered by chance that the professor that I was studying under was Jack and Corinne's 'professor'! I remember the real welcome that the Gill family subsequently gave me. I don't know if Corinne is still alive or not. She was quite a bit older than me, and I've spent most of my life overseas and have lost touch.

Hi I'm Julie
I grew up at Smearber Farm My Maternal Grandma was Martha, My parents moved to the farm in 1960 when Agnes and Dick who were brother and sister retired to Early. I remember Uncle Dick had an arm amputated I believe in the war, Unfortunatly I don't know any more but would be really interested to find out more. I know he made adaptations around the farm so that he could continue to do the farm work.
I remenber Jack and Corrine, I beleive they had a baby who died, she is buried in Elslack and Broughton Graveyard. They divorced and Jack remarried a Scottish lady from Perth called Dorothy. They lived at Fenton Villa for a good few years. Following Dorothy's death Jack continued to live there alone supported by freinds and my mum. His health deteriorated and he died in Thornton Hill Nursing home maybe 10 years ago i'm not sure.

[Stanley]

Thanks for adding that Julie. Was Martha a Harrison?

[JKG]

Yes She was Martha Ann Harrison the youngest Had older brother Richard, and Sister Agnes who farmed there till their retiement when my parents took over the farm

[Stanley]

Thanks Julie....

[PollyLynn]

Hi,

There seem to be four Harrison families in the area:

(1) Stephen Harrison (b. 1641 is it) who had son Stephen Harrison (b. 1685 is it?)
They are haplogroup R-M269. They are mostly in Yorkshire, but a few (not the majority) went to Canada, fewer to the States.
All this is in Bill Harrison's book, Harrisons of Gisburn Forest. Bill's family live on farm named Owlshaw, but about a dozen other farms are in his book. I have to go to work, so won't type out. Bill was generous with his book, in several libraries.
They are 100%? Church of England.

(2) Harrisons of Rayhead, Gaisgill, and Swinden by Gisburn. Market town is Skipton.
They are haplogroup I-M253. Early members of this family appear to be:
*Isaiah Harrison (born YOrkshire?, about 1666/1664) became master blacksmith; arrived in Oyster Bay, Long Island, New York. He married two Quakers.
*Henry Harrison of Rayhead had a son Charles (bapt. 1667 Gisburn Parish records, now Lancashire records, buried 1758 age 89, buried at Sawley Quaker grounds)
*Rest of family dissenters and non-assenting is it?
*John Harrison of Castleblayney, County Monaghan, Ireland (born Yorkshire maybe, lived at Castleblayney in 1663, 1665, and died there in 1703).
See book by Polly Lynn, Trades & Professions of the Harrison Family. It is in Skipton Library; Borthwick Institute; & Lancashire something. Also on Amazon.co.uk

(3) Harrison
haplogroup Q

(4) Harrison
haplogroup R-M269, but not closely related to Stephen's family.

Polly Lynn

[Tripps]

In case anyone else, like me, didn't know, and was wondering - this is a Haplogroup.

[Stanley]

I looked it up David and it's far to complicated for my small brain....
Polly, where does this leave the Harrisons of Elslack?

[Sue]

I looked it up David and it's far to complicated for my small brain....
Polly, where does this leave the Harrisons of Elslack?

I understand it, just but can’t say I have come across it in my studies or teaching. Its advanced genetics.

Basically some genes are so close together on a chromosome that they rarely get separated and thus are always inherited together. Normally during the formation of eggs and sperms genes get shuffled around a bit like shuffling a pack of cards. The further apart the genes are on a chromosome the more likely they are to be shuffled.

The Y chromosome carry some genes only males can inherit , so if those close genes are on this Y chromosome then those inherited features will be evident in the males only .

There is a structure in cells called mitochondria that help us release energy. These have
pieces of DNA and thus genes in them. When eggs are formed the mitochondria stay in the eggs and are inherited . This does not happen with sperm. So any features that are from close genes in a mitichondrion will be inherited by a female line only.

The article then goes on to talk about the effect of mutations which only goes to complicate this basic explanation , so I will ignore it. Hope this helps

[Stanley]

It helps Sue but it's still far beyond my pay grade. I shall stick to what I understand.....

[PollyLynn]

Hi, Sue and Stanley,

Good questions: where does this leave the Harrisons of Elslack? I think all four Harrison families were even in Elslack or near it. And thanks, yes I-M253 is a haplogroup, the one passed from father to biological son. Sorry, I was going out the door; when you are in deep with something, did not come up for air, yes haplogroup I-M253. So we are treading carefully.

The Y DNA test results are being posted on this website, Harrison DNA Project.

https://jhamedia.com/harrison-dna-home/harrison-pats/

So 4 different families in your area, and about 110 different Harrison families worldwide. We all--including you--are putting each family on there, after tested. TV in same room is going, so will sign off. And for each Harrison family on that website--George Harrison of the Beatles were just added this November--there is a contact person, you can write and ask anything. You can also write the web page writer (host), the man who does all the work looking at the DNA results of each family. Signing off.

I started out trying to say: each link is being shown--as it usually should be for genealogy societies (like the new stricter DAR in the States). So scrutinizing birth, marriage, death, and land records. I think religion and land records and naming traditions have been great clues for the Harrisons, since my Harrisons differ in religion from surrounding/neighbor Harrisons. And of course passing land from father to son shows they were related; I mean I wouldn't give land to my neighbor's son, unless related. Truly signing off now.

Let me say taht no connection has been made with Harrisons of Rayhead. Rayhead is Henry father of Charles (Baptist to Quaker) father of Charles [junior]. They are still separate from Harrisons of Swinden. May connect them, may not.

Polly Lynn

[Stanley]

Thanks for the post Polly but this is supercharged genealogy as far as I am concerned.... I stopped chasing my ancestors far sooner than you!
But I am sure this will be picked up by people who are as deeply immersed as you. More power to your elbow.