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Feel free to ignore this - no one really needs to know such stuff. :smile:

The contents of the crevices of my memory took me back to the Radio - Childrens Hour, probably in about the early 1950's from where I remembered that even then, the BBC was bit "woke" and there was a dramatisation concerning escaped slaves from the plantations of Jamaica who fled to some sort of freedom in the mountains. They were known as "maroons". The introductory music for this was a Jamaican folk song which started (as far as I could estimate) with the words "Some of them are yellow some are blue" Armed only with this information the quest was on.

Result.
Here's more than anyone needs to know about Jamaican history - Jamaican Maroons,

and eventually the song surrendered, and has been found to be - a childrens song about birds, called 'Chi Chi Bud Oh .' It was 'holler' not yellow, and 'bawl' not blue. :smile: Here's Ernie Smith's version

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Morning David! Just my sort of internet search these days and yes I remember Children's Hour well. Mabel Constanduros (LINK) Comes to mind..... why?
This is this morning's ear worm.....

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This sounds like an Ealing Comedy. :smile:

Bit coin crime

I heard on the Times Radio that they gave £1000 tips to taxi drivers, and there was a stampede whenever they ordered one.

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During the investigation, the Bitcoin accounts were frozen, however they continued to grow in value. After a Proceeds of Crime Act hearing, the victims were reimbursed, but there was an additional £1m that had accumulated while the assets were on hold. Due to the law which states a victim can not be repaid more than they had lost, £500,000 of the surplus money was given to Lancashire Constabulary to fund crime-fighting initiatives in the county.
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Re Ode to Billie Joe.
I'd have that on my Desert island Discs lists. I don't 'get it' though I have some thoughts about it, but neither does anyone else from what I can find. As is often the case it's a mystery - make of it what you will. :smile:



Was the third of June, another sleepy, dusty Delta day
I was out choppin' cotton and my brother was balin' hay
And at dinnertime we stopped and walked back to the house to eat
And Mama hollered out the back door y'all remember to wipe your feet
And then she said I got some news this mornin' from Choctaw Ridge
Today Billie Joe MacAllister jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge
And Papa said to Mama as he passed around the blackeyed peas
Well, Billie Joe never had a lick of sense, pass the biscuits please
There's five more acres in the lower forty I got to plow
And Mama said it was shame about Billie Joe, anyhow
Seems like nothin' ever comes to no good up on Choctaw Ridge
And now Billie Joe MacAllister's jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge
And Brother said he recollected when he and Tom and Billie Joe
Put a frog down my back at the Carroll County picture show
And wasn't I talkin' to him after church last Sunday night?
I'll have another piece of apple pie, you know it don't seem right
I saw him at the sawmill yesterday on Choctaw Ridge
And now you tell me Billie Joe's jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge
Mama said to me, Child, what's happened to your appetite?
I've been cookin' all mornin' and you haven't touched a single bite
That nice young preacher, Brother Taylor, dropped by today
Said he'd be pleased to have dinner on Sunday, oh, by the way
He said he saw a girl that looked a lot like you up on Choctaw Ridge
And she and Billie Joe was throwing somethin' off the Tallahatchie Bridge
A year has come and gone since we heard the news 'bout Billie Joe
And brother married Becky Thompson, they bought a store in Tupelo
There was a virus goin' 'round, Papa caught it and he died last spring
And now mama doesn't seem to wanna do much of anything
And me, I spend a lot of time pickin' flowers up on Choctaw Ridge
And drop them into the muddy water off the Tallahatchie Bridge

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Songwriters: Bobbie Gentry
Ode to Billie Joe lyrics © Northridge Music Co., Northridge Music Company, Northridge Music
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My theory is that when they were seen together they were throwing an aborted foetus off the bridge and it was remorse for that act that drove Billie Joe to take his life there.
I had always assumed that it was a high bridge but the visuals in the video of the bridge showed I was mistaken......
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I think that is the logical explanation for the lyrics, I have always thought the same. :smile:
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That's what I guessed it meant - but a bit of googling shows that Bobby Gentry, the singer songwriter never confirmed it, and did not reveal what was actually thrown from the bridge. Do we even know if they were true events, or just fiction? The bridge is a bit complex too. Seems it is a real bridge, but has burned down and been rebuilt. I guess we will never know the truth - for a truth there must be somewhere. It's impossible for there not to be. :smile:
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It's still a haunting song and is still a current earworm.....
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The site is going rusty. Little activity after lunchtime, and most before lunch is predictable and repetitive. Not sure why I need to know which of the fifty shades of 'overcast' it is currently in Barnoldswick. The number of devotees is dwindling to single figures on a daily basis. Not sure what the cure is, or even if one is needed.

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The Muslim atrocity committed at Crumpsall, a few days ago is sinking fast from the headlines. Here's the thoughts I had to it, in the moments following.

Crumpsall? I'd have thought it was in Prestwich.

Oh it's on Middleton Road just down from Sheepfoot Lane. That was the route - via Agecroft - to all the interesting places - over a long time. The A580 East Lancs Road, by car from the 1950's onwards - the terror of double declutching up that hill with traffic lights at rhe top. and later by push bike riding to Southport. Later the shortest route on a Friday night to Salford dogs.

I remember looking at some flats further down which were for sale for £2000 ! I looked in the esate agents window., but earning only about £15 per week, and not having a settled lifestyle, that's a far as it went. The agency was called Alex Langsam - that sticks because langsam means slow in German. He certainly wasn't - I see he owns the Britannia chain of hotels now and is said to be worth about £250 millions.

Mainly a Jewish area - though I never saw any of the Hassidic variety - destination for a Sunday treat for bagels and cream cakes, from Bookbinder's bakery. I remember the bagels were small tough, and shiny not like the American ones available in Tesco now. Quite a challenge for your teeth.

Occasional destination for a Sunday haircut - leaving it to the last possible moment before returning to Catterick.

You may know that Elkie Brooks comes from Broughton - not too far away, and he maiden name was Bookbinder. I wonder if she was connected with the bakery? She wasn't a bad 'turn'. Here's a favourite.

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"You may know that Elkie Brooks comes from Broughton "
I didn't know that David....
As for the site..... Have you noticed how many hits Bob Gets? over 400 in the last 12 hours and before the point is raised, they aren't all bots!
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Elkie Brooks was the booked turn at a works do one year at the Dorchester Hotel, Park Lane, London. Dunno why the boss chose there every year - us office bods were never paid enough to afford the taxi there. I was only with the company 23 months managing to join after the previous year do - where it was the Band of the Scots Guards , and leave before the next. I hated Christmas Company Lunches too ( wherever I worked ) though The lunchtime one at the Milk Marketing Board was OK , each department were allowed to dine with their department head / s in turn during the week in the Directors Dining Area ( office etc bods it was self service on wooden plywood trays - Directors was Silver Service with waitress service ).
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October 21 1966. The spoil tips collapsed at Aberfan and buried the school. 116 children and 5 teachers killed.
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Have you watched 'Heir Hunters' on TV? They chased up the heirs to people whose ancestors had not made a will, and got their leads from a Government list called 'Bona Vacantia' meaning ownerless goods.

Being 'troubled wi' mi' nose' - I had reason to look at the list tonight, and found that it has been removed in its entirety in July this year 2025.

Seems that some rascals were coming up with forged wills, and claiming the proceeds of estates. I guess if all near relatives were dead or unaware that they were even related - which was often the case - that would not be difficult. Since in the absence of real beneficiaries the estates passed to the Crown, or the Duchy of Lancaster or Cornwall - Prince William I think. That will never do will it? So the whole scheme has been pulled. I assume it will be back eventually in a modified form. I wonder how much has been cruelly denied to the Crown. :smile: I find it hard to get too indignant - why should they get it - sounds a bit feudal to me.

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The Heir Hunters serieses threw up a few wobblies. One of interest (but no scandel) was a small firm that specialised in Jewish estates where many family members had been in europe and either moved to us or killed in any number of genocide events. Harrowing and interesting in equal measure.

More was one company (I dont think the specific was broadcast) where a will existed (maybe it left everything to the RSPCA or whatever) if was not sent in for probate but the firm instead sent it intestate and earned fees off family inheritors instead
Things I learned included an adoption takes a person out of right of succession or inheritance of their natural parent/s replacing that of the adoptitve parent/s. However a will in either situation would restore the "correct" flow of deceased funds, sometimes the treasury office will allow a payment from the BV(I dont think it pays interest ?) as ex-gratia when a legitimate natural offspring appears whom may otherwise be in a form of hardship.
Some people make wills and leave the process to the queen / king whatever.

Amounts would appear on a BV list years after a death . This would tend to be where a person had left an asset to say a charity for use as long as the charity wanted it - eg Land for a School or a building for disabled use. If the charity etc relinquished the operation of the asset then it would revert to the donor whom if dead the end heirs would have clam to it

More recent years names on BV list would be european - as upheavals after two WW caused the likes of Germans Italians and so on would appear in the UK maybe with family still home or in US or wherever, And Indian and other commonwealth migrant names which must have made tracing difficult
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I agree with you David, More than a whiff of Feudalism about the Bona Vacantia list and system.
How about transferring any funds deemed as surplus to Legal Aid? Those litigants could well be very deserving recipients.....
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