COMPUTERS, THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY

[PanBiker]

The problem is on one of the servers on the site where One Guy is hosted. The service provider has been contacted and have been availed of the timeout problems that we are currently experiencing. They are looking into the problem.

[Tripps]

OK Ian - thanks for that.

[Pluggy]

Much of Canonicals funding comes from Google, via the advertising kickbacks incorporated into the search of the default web browser (Presently Firefox). The same kickbacks going a different direction also keep Mozilla running. Advertising is what keeps the entire internet running.

[Stanley]

Hit wrong key inadvertently this morning and went into full page view of the site. Couldn't get back even with esc so had to switch power off and restart. What's the short cut for restoring normal screen?

[Steven Chorkley]

Hit wrong key inadvertently this morning and went into full page view of the site. Couldn't get back even with esc so had to switch power off and restart. What's the short cut for restoring normal screen?

I think it is F11. At least it is in Chrome!

[Pluggy]

It is F11, it works on all browsers and operating systems as far as I'm aware. It certainly works in Firefox in Ubuntu which is what Stanley uses. It just toggles, so pressing it again switches back to full screen.

[Whyperion]

One of the other forums I hang out on also had some outages a week or two back (USA server problems , now fixed) , not alot one can do , as long as the hosting company has - a means for logging and appropriately responding to problems and complaints , restorable back-ups , techies whom know how to fix problems , and replacement working hardware in place , there is not a lot else one can do, auto-mirroring servers in different world locations is probably the next best , but that will cost, anyway isnt the cost of cooling all these servers contributing to global climate change ?

[Steven Chorkley]

One of the other forums I hang out on also had some outages a week or two back (USA server problems , now fixed) , not alot one can do , as long as the hosting company has - a means for logging and appropriately responding to problems and complaints , restorable back-ups , techies whom know how to fix problems , and replacement working hardware in place , there is not a lot else one can do, auto-mirroring servers in different world locations is probably the next best , but that will cost, anyway isnt the cost of cooling all these servers contributing to global climate change ?

Shared hosting isn't the best. Especially for databases. This site will make a hit purely because of the amount of connections. There will be another 50+ High volume + another 100+ low volume sites on the same server.

The next step for this site would be a VM running a Linux distro such as Debian or even ubuntu. With the Database stored on a low volume dedicated server or if there is enough power, inside the VM itself. - The latter isn't recommended.

If you sign up to a backup solution the VM will be copied to another NAS elsewhere or if you pay big money, to another mirrored VM on another server.

If you were seriously thinking about upgrading you can get a decent enough VM for anywhere between £20-£100 a month. No need to go overboard, if you needed to upgrade from a VM you would be looking at dedicated HDD's or a dedicated Server. But then we are talking £400+ a month.

[Pluggy]

Its whether the members would dig deeper to fund a VM solution. According to http://www.ipneighbour.com/ our server is shared with 51 other websites. Compared with 184 for my personal website. OGFB is much more money than I pay for my personal hosting. Thats about the linit of it, the more you pay, the less ways your machine is shared. The level we have is appropriate for the amount of money coming in.

And since you're not a donor, you don't have a say.

[Steven Chorkley]

Its whether the members would dig deeper to fund a VM solution. According to http://www.ipneighbour.com/ our server is shared with 51 other websites. Compared with 184 for my personal website. OGFB is much more money than I pay for my personal hosting. Thats about the linit of it, the more you pay, the less ways your machine is shared. The level we have is appropriate for the amount of money coming in.

And since you're not a donor, you don't have a say.

I was only giving advice........

[PanBiker]

My works website is on a shared server as well, coincidentally also with 51 on the same share, (not 1&1). Remedial work undertaken at the hosting site though seems to have fixed the timeout problem.

[Stanley]

Yup, F11. I thought it might be because when I got back in I looked at the toggle for full page and made a note that it was probably the same for the return. Thanks anyway... (Now all I have to do is remember....)

[Steven Chorkley]

My works website is on a shared server as well, coincidentally also with 51 on the same share, (not 1&1). Remedial work undertaken at the hosting site though seems to have fixed the timeout problem.

My site shows to be on a server with more than 2000+ sites. But that'll be because my DNS is redirected through CloudFlares CDN (cached) Network. (my server has slow ping... 111ms) Now a smooth 3-4ms

I want try to use it with my Pebble!! I have read of people bypassing Pebble servers for lookups.

[David Whipp]

One of our cats has taken to draping itself over our wireless router (for warmth, I guess). Will this affect the signal?

It's working purrfectly at the moment...

[Pluggy]

One of our cats has taken to draping itself over our wireless router (for warmth, I guess). Will this affect the signal?

It's working purrfectly at the moment...

Yes, but probably not so much as you'd notice.

[David Whipp]

No purrceptible difference, then?

[Stanley]

STOP IT! I can't stand the puns! Only detrimental affect I can think of is that it will raise the internal temperature of the router and might shorten its life as it cooks faster.

[Steven Chorkley]

STOP IT! I can't stand the puns! Only detrimental affect I can think of is that it will raise the internal temperature of the router and might shorten its life as it cooks faster.

Nah.... They aren't worth enough to worry about.....

[David Whipp]

As a mate of mine always says, Cooking Fat! (sorry Stanley).

[Stanley]

I don't understand that David......

[David Whipp]

I don't understand that David......

Apologies for the pun on transposition, Stanley... (not wanting to be any more explicit!).

[Whyperion]

David , a pun and a spoonerism in one. Maybe you should be less abstruse next time.

Meanwhile ... Yahoo! have changed their mail interface , making it less easy to use , particulary subfolders, grouping related emails into conversations ( which slows down loading , includes those i have responded to showing up in the senders as 'Me' - which is annoying as one of my pet names for another family member is "M E" and is their user name on their personal email ) , and it crashes Safari (on MS Vista) with ' Web2Kit has stopped working '. Oddly it was unchanged from the previous system yesterday on Internet Explorer when I fell back to using MS IE to access yahoo webmail.

[Steven Chorkley]

David , a pun and a spoonerism in one. Maybe you should be less abstruse next time.

Meanwhile ... Yahoo! have changed their mail interface , making it less easy to use , particulary subfolders, grouping related emails into conversations ( which slows down loading , includes those i have responded to showing up in the senders as 'Me' - which is annoying as one of my pet names for another family member is "M E" and is their user name on their personal email ) , and it crashes Safari (on MS Vista) with ' Web2Kit has stopped working '. Oddly it was unchanged from the previous system yesterday on Internet Explorer when I fell back to using MS IE to access yahoo webmail.

Yahoo is really disappointing.... I would recommend using Gmail. Safari on Windows is poor at the best of times and Vista well...... hand in hand they don't work well. Try Chrome??!

[Gloria]

David, you must share a friend with me.... He had one of those...is it Reg?

[Stanley]

Thanks for the clue David.....
As for email.... I changed to Thunderbird long before I had Ubuntu and have never regretted it.