COMPUTERS, THE AGONY AND THE ECSTASY

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Gloria wrote:David, you must share a friend with me.... He had a cooking fat...is it Reg?
(Got to be careful I'm not missing an obtuse reference here...)

My mate with the cooking fat quote is a queen - that is, a female. If you want to share Reg with me, that's fine, but I don't know what Alison will say.

(Exit stage left to 'nother topic before rap on knuckles for topic trashing....)
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Cooking Fat. Cockney rhyming slang for cat. I suppose the "cat" on the modem is just no more than "cooking fat".
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Daughter Margaret is over from Oz. She had a play on the FM3 yesterday and was suitably impressed!
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I downloaded something a couple of days ago, and then soon noticed unwanted adverts, surveys, etc, intruding at random times. I see now that despite my best efforts to avoid them, Ive got two programs installed. They are called tinywork and linkswift.
Fortunately they were easily removable via Control Panel / Add Remove programs, and don't seem to have done any harm. Let's hope so.
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Tripps wrote:I downloaded something a couple of days ago, and then soon noticed unwanted adverts, surveys, etc, intruding at random times. I see now that despite my best efforts to avoid them, Ive got two programs installed. They are called tinywork and linkswift.
Fortunately they were easily removable via Control Panel / Add Remove programs, and don't seem to have done any harm. Let's hope so.
Personally I wouldn't take any chances.... It sounds harmless and probably is. But if I was you, I would download cc cleaner and see if there are any executables that were left running. If your savvy enough.... Maybe look through resource monitor and see if there is a program connecting to the Internet that you don't recognise.

Otherwise it was probably just malware.
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Tripps wrote:I downloaded something a couple of days ago, and then soon noticed unwanted adverts, surveys, etc, intruding at random times. I see now that despite my best efforts to avoid them, Ive got two programs installed. They are called tinywork and linkswift.
Fortunately they were easily removable via Control Panel / Add Remove programs, and don't seem to have done any harm. Let's hope so.
Rule 1, never connect a Windows PC to the internet. ;)

On second thoughts, since Windows malware is a good part of my living, always connect a Windows PC to the internet.....
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Pluggy wrote:
Tripps wrote:I downloaded something a couple of days ago, and then soon noticed unwanted adverts, surveys, etc, intruding at random times. I see now that despite my best efforts to avoid them, Ive got two programs installed. They are called tinywork and linkswift.
Fortunately they were easily removable via Control Panel / Add Remove programs, and don't seem to have done any harm. Let's hope so.
Rule 1, never connect a Windows PC to the internet. ;)

On second thoughts, since Windows malware is a good part of my living, always connect a Windows PC to the internet.....
That's really not a huge deal anymore. I've never had a windows virus!!!

But windows is so much easier to program than Linux. .NET is a breeze and Visual Basic is fantastic!! I can't say the same for Linux (excluding Java. Some great IDE's too!)

Windows seems to be a little more lightweight on my Single Core machine since it has hardware acceleration.... Stupid AMD!!! As soon as Linux has wide driver support or Windows sticks to the Metro trend.... I'll change! I left OSX because of Mavericks, it works like iOS7 and that is a load of Crap!
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Thank you both for the advice. The main point seems to be "If your savvy enough..."
Well of course I'm not; so I'll just bash on and hope for the best - as usual. It's worked up to now.
The fact that Linkswift and tinywork seem to have their own website, and were easily 'removed' gives me hope, bit of course maybe that's what they are designed to do. :smile:
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Tripps wrote:Thank you both for the advice. The main point seems to be "If your savvy enough..."
Well of course I'm not; so I'll just bash on and hope for the best - as usual. It's worked up to now.
The fact that Linkswift and tinywork seem to have their own website, and were easily 'removed' gives me hope, bit of course maybe that's what they are designed to do. :smile:
Yeah! I think you'll be fine. But if your intrigued at diving in head first with C Cleaner
http://lifehacker.com/384990/ccleaner-2 ... es-your-pc

I think you'll be amazed at how easy it actually is!
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Thanks for the advice Steven - I've found in the past though that such remedies usually get me deeper into the doodoo. I've bookmarked it though for when I'm feeling braver. :smile: Your knowledge of these matters is awesome.

I went for Microsoft Essentials after Pluggy's advice in August -
" Almost all malware requires somebody to actually do something on the machine to get it infected (click on a link, opening a dodgy email, visit a ropey/hacked website etc). Since Microsoft started taking security seriously (circa 2004/2005), even Windows doesn't easily spread stuff without human help, providing it has been doing its job and updating itself."
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Tripps wrote:Thanks for the advice Steven - I've found in the past though that such remedies usually get me deeper into the doodoo. I've bookmarked it though for when I'm feeling braver. :smile: Your knowledge of these matters is awesome.

I went for Microsoft Essentials after Pluggy's advice in August -
" Almost all malware requires somebody to actually do something on the machine to get it infected (click on a link, opening a dodgy email, visit a ropey/hacked website etc). Since Microsoft started taking security seriously (circa 2004/2005), even Windows doesn't easily spread stuff without human help, providing it has been doing its job and updating itself."
This is worth knowing. http://www.howtogeek.com/173291/goodbye ... antivirus/

Although I have sticked with Security Essentials
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One of these days someone will develop an OS that is free, stable, well-supported and doesn't need virus protection.
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Stanley wrote:One of these days someone will develop an OS that is free, stable, well-supported and doesn't need virus protection.
Speaking of which.....

Pluggy, I'm in dll hell at the moment. rundll32 is corrupted, along with many others. Is there an easy way to replace these files without re-installing? It defiantly isn't a virus wreaking havoc (I think it's a friend..... ass.). When ever the system needs rundll32 800 processes are opened until the system realises oh s*** and closes them all down and throws an error.

That said, I haven't tried a recovery.....
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Anyone played with Ubuntu 13.10????
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I don't use Windows. Is this any use to you?

http://www.iobit.com/exedll/rundll32-exe.html
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" I'm in dll hell at the moment. rundll32"

I didn't even know I had one!
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Stanley wrote:" I'm in dll hell at the moment. rundll32"

I didn't even know I had one!
You don't.

dll errors could be any one of about 100 reasons. Windows often speaks with forked tongue in error messages, leading you to spend a lot of time barking up the wrong tree ( Metaphors ?, me ?, Nahhh.... ). Reinstalling windows is often the least stressful cure but I'd check the hard drive is good beforehand. I've downloaded Ubuntu 13.10, not got round to trying it yet. Next Aprils 14.04 LTS will hold a lot more interest. 12,04 stays put on my main computer until at least then.
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Been very busy of late, just counting up, my last post was the 6th in a fortnight, playing on OGFB takes a back seat to keeping up with the workload. I took on a couple of days a week work at a school in early September, something which is either fantastic or a curse depending on how much other work is coming in the door. The joys of self employment.

I gained a recentish, decentish, laptop from the school (I offered to repair it for the school, but they didn't want to bother, I offered them money for it, but they just said take it, so my gain). Got one or two sniffing after laptops but I think I'll hang on to it myself, A windoze box occasionally comes in useful and the the intact windoze vista license means I don't have to find money for a licence to stick a copy of M$ on a VM. (I presently have XP on a VM on my main machine but M$ are putting it out to grass in April). I might just make it dual boot with Ubuntu 13.10 on the laptop. Vista for all its faults will outlive XP. Ubuntu is a lot more useful than Windows for repairing Windows computers (Because a lot of technical software I need is either built in or available for no financial outlay and an O/S that will run on a computer with a mangled or even no hard disk is fantastically useful especially with M$'s draconian licensing issues) , but sometimes you just need a M$ box that isn't broken.

Glossary :

Windoze : Contemptuous alternative to 'Windows'
M$ : Microsoft - the $ being a back handed slur on Microsofts Money, not that they're making very much of late.
VM : Virtual Machine - an operating system running within another operating system. I can run a full copy of Windows on a Ubuntu/ Linux machine., (Or even vice versa if you're particularly desperate).
Ubuntu : A very popular distribution of Linux http://www.ubuntu.com
Linux : an Operating system that has nothing to do with Windows or Microsoft, the operating system and its software can be had for no financial outlay. Its free, but unlike Windows 'free' doesn't have an agenda.
XP : Windows XP, introduced in 2001,replaced by Windows Vista in Early 2007, now in its death throes.
Vista : Windows Vista, hugely unpopular, replaced by Windows 7 in late 2009.
Dual Boot : The ability to run two operating systems on one computer, you select which one you want to start in the early stages of the computer starting up.
Box : Computer
Machine : Computer
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I put Mozilla Firefox on a Windows box yesterday and to my dismay (Firefox has always been clean in the past) it wanted to install a lot of what I would deem 'crap' along with itself. To be fair it did give you the option to bypass it.

Mozilla, Its a step in the wrong direction......
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Pluggy wrote:
Stanley wrote:" I'm in dll hell at the moment. rundll32"

I didn't even know I had one!
You don't.

dll errors could be any one of about 100 reasons. Windows often speaks with forked tongue in error messages, leading you to spend a lot of time barking up the wrong tree ( Metaphors ?, me ?, Nahhh.... ). Reinstalling windows is often the least stressful cure but I'd check the hard drive is good beforehand. I've downloaded Ubuntu 13.10, not got round to trying it yet. Next Aprils 14.04 LTS will hold a lot more interest. 12,04 stays put on my main computer until at least then.
No, nothing wrong with the SSD. Passed SMART, one bad sector. In an ideal world I would reinstall Windows but I have put too much work into customising the OS!! Although I hate automated software that attempts to fix machines I booted into the recovery and clicked next, walked away for 20mins. Came back and was showing the login screen, smirked, but somehow it worked! I've had no other errors (touch wood).
Pluggy wrote:Been very busy of late, just counting up, my last post was the 6th in a fortnight, playing on OGFB takes a back seat to keeping up with the workload. I took on a couple of days a week work at a school in early September, something which is either fantastic or a curse depending on how much other work is coming in the door. The joys of self employment.

I gained a recentish, decentish, laptop from the school (I offered to repair it for the school, but they didn't want to bother, I offered them money for it, but they just said take it, so my gain). Got one or two sniffing after laptops but I think I'll hang on to it myself, A windoze box occasionally comes in useful and the the intact windoze vista license means I don't have to find money for a licence to stick a copy of M$ on a VM. (I presently have XP on a VM on my main machine but M$ are putting it out to grass in April). I might just make it dual boot with Ubuntu 13.10 on the laptop. Vista for all its faults will outlive XP. Ubuntu is a lot more useful than Windows for repairing Windows computers (Because a lot of technical software I need is either built in or available for no financial outlay and an O/S that will run on a computer with a mangled or even no hard disk is fantastically useful especially with M$'s draconian licensing issues) , but sometimes you just need a M$ box that isn't broken.

Glossary :

Windoze : Contemptuous alternative to 'Windows'
M$ : Microsoft - the $ being a back handed slur on Microsofts Money, not that they're making very much of late.
VM : Virtual Machine - an operating system running within another operating system. I can run a full copy of Windows on a Ubuntu/ Linux machine., (Or even vice versa if you're particularly desperate).
Ubuntu : A very popular distribution of Linux http://www.ubuntu.com
Linux : an Operating system that has nothing to do with Windows or Microsoft, the operating system and its software can be had for no financial outlay. Its free, but unlike Windows 'free' doesn't have an agenda.
XP : Windows XP, introduced in 2001,replaced by Windows Vista in Early 2007, now in its death throes.
Vista : Windows Vista, hugely unpopular, replaced by Windows 7 in late 2009.
Dual Boot : The ability to run two operating systems on one computer, you select which one you want to start in the early stages of the computer starting up.
Box : Computer
Machine : Computer
Steven. I have deleted the para where you advocated illegal activity. What you do in private is your own affair but the site is responsible for any illegal posts as well as yourself. Stanley.

My *toolkit* comprises of Windows Server (fantastic troubleshooting techniques as long as the host runs Windows XP - 8) and a UNIX emulator (for all the other stuff...) on a USB and Windows 7 install disk as a partition... Does the job although took a while to create.

If you wish I can email the key to you.
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Is anyone able to get Thomo out of this fix:
http://www.oneguyfrombarlick.co.uk/view ... 945#p44944
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Its next door to impossible to get the old contents of a drive back from being overwritten. Forensically, its sometimes possible, buts way above what I can do and it would be extremely expensive. Now if it had been formatted, that's a different tale.
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Col's happy to have a look to see if it can be done. Have pm'd Thomo.
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Thanks for trying to help Thomo!

Is anyone having trouble with Firefox at the moment? Every time Mrs Tiz opens Firefox it gives her that page saying "Whoops, sorry, we must have not closed the tabs properly" and offering to open them again (even though she closed them as normal)...or it opens the last page she visited, again even though she closed it as normal. we've deleted all cookies and history etc but it's made no difference. It doesn't relate to any specific web page. Is it time to uninstall and reinstall Firefox?
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No problems here Tiz..... Only thing I can suggest is that I am bang up to date with Ubuntu updates for 12.04. Have you missed any?
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