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1968. My old AEC Mercury tanker parked up at Hey Farm. The tank was a Darham, stainless steel, 1865 gallon.

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In 1976 it was being used at the Dairy as an outside holding tank for washing water.

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Twenty years later it was still being useful at Bail Farm as a reservoir for the detergent used to flush the milk lines in the parlour.
I always had a soft spot for this tank, beautifully made and it always looked smart. Very easy to keep clean. I don't know what it cost new when J&E Hall at Lancaster bought it but it was a good investment!
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Wasn't it the old AEC that had the air intake inside the cab alongside your right leg? I remember driving one to Cambridge in freezing fog and being so cold I couldn't walk when I got out of the cab at the motorway services. Which idiot designed that? The good old days? Keep them!
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Dead right China and the tiny Smith's heater was useless. Ice on the inside of the screen in really bad weather.... Mind you, otherwise a good motor, better than the old Albino which had no heater at all!

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The Albion tanker at West Marton in 1968. Barbara Castle's new Transport Act came in that year and it was condemned because it failed the brake tests miserably. Funny thing is that it never had an accident but needed driving with extreme care!
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Jack Platt's old Maudslay wagon from his days with Wild's.
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Bankfield Lancashire boilers going for scrap in 1978.
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The marker stone on Cross Lane, Salterforth. Rescued by Nick Livesey.
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I've seen several finials on old terraced houses where the letter "S" has been reversed. At first I thought that just a mistake on the builders part but now I'm beginning to think that this was an accepted way of writing the "S". Any thoughts on the subject?
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Not competent to comment on that question, Plaques, but the following was reported to LCC's Regulatory Committee in November 2009 as part of a report on the highway status of Salterforth Lane. The stone is referred to.

Further evidence is submitted by the applicant in the form of an extract of “History of
the Ancient Musghyll Gate to Dumphill Gate Road”, compiled by Earby and District
Local History Society and published in 2003, the same document having been
submitted by Salterforth Parish Council in support of the claim. The Environment
Directorate notes that Musghyll Gate is at the southern end of the claim and
Dumphill Gate at the northern end, with the way in between known locally as Rocky
Tops. The field adjacent to the route on the east between points A and B is named
as 'Dumphill' on the estate plan of 1765 mentioned earlier in this report. The article
gives information relating to the history and maintenance of the route, and also refers
to the “Musghyll Guide Stone”, a milestone which it is alleged dates from the
seventeenth century but which was some hundred years ago stolen from a location
along the claimed route, and which was restored in 2002. Photographs of the newly
installed stone are shown and the lettering is of an ancient style in the view of the
applicant.
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P, I know I have seen the reversed 'S' before but can't remember where. I've had a dig in Richardson's 'Local Historian's Encyclopedia' (a gold mine!) and he notes that a 16th century script called 'Tudor Secretary' uses a reversed 'S'. In ancient scripts there were many different ways of writing S and I suppose the most likely explanation is that during the transition from one convention to another relatively uneducated people like stone masons occasionally got confused. They weren't as deeply into precision in writing and spelling conventions as we are now, look at all the different ways of spelling common names.
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Meer stones set up just off Cross Lane Salterforth. I think they were moved from their original position to save them.
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Part of the Midgeley estate map of 1838 showing New Mill (County Brook Mill) and Owlet Nest farm. Click for a larger image.
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Returning to the April 25 posting on the reverse letter "S". Here is a street name in Nelson where they got the "S" right but transposed the letters T & R. So the reversed "S" could have been an error after all.
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Probably the most famous transposition was the logo on bricks made by the Accrington Brick and Tile Co. It was in the frog and intended to be 'IRON' but they put it on the mould the correct way and all the bricks were marked 'NORI' with a reversed 'N'.
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Midge Hole Mill on County Brook.
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Stanley wrote:Probably the most famous transposition was the logo on bricks made by the Accrington Brick and Tile Co. It was in the frog and intended to be 'IRON' but they put it on the mould the correct way and all the bricks were marked 'NORI' with a reversed 'N'.
If that is the case why wasn't the 'R' reversed? See examples in the photos in the link below, neither 'N' nor 'R' are reversed.

Here is another explanation:

When the Accrington Brick Company began mass production, they also branded their bricks IRON. Capt Anstice got to hear of it and threatened them with court action for breach of his brand copyright. So in an excellent euphoria of marketing, Accrington spelled the name backwards on their bricks and advertised that their brick was "Iron whichever way you put it." Hence today the Accrington NORI is well known and the IRON BROSELEY is forgotten.

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Didn't know that China, thanks for the information. Here are the last three Midgeley Estate images.

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It took me a long time to realise that Loose Games was the quarry on Tubber Hill which is now the caravan site.
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Holy Trinity in 1963 with the original tower that leaked so badly it had to be replaced by the present copper spire.
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Must have been taken on a Monday; all that washing across the streets.
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You're right! I hadn't noticed.
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Front streets as well, my mum always pegged out at the back.
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