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A picture of Elizabeth Slater, James Nutter's sister, starting Bancroft engine on Saturday March 13th 1920. James Nutter had died on February 14th 1914at Southport. His wife Mary Jane was ill at the time. There is a full report in the Craven Herald of March 19th 1920. Note that the cladding is not finished and the beds haven't been painted.
The last new engine in Barlick and the last one to run closing on December 20th 1978.
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Grove Mill Earby after the fire of 1905. Victoria Mill chimney in the background....
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Closing down an engine was always seen as a significant event. Ernest Marshall stopping Wellhouse engine for the last time in 1965. I think the man with him may be his father Tom Marshall.
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Steve's ice cream at Townhead in the 1950s. Spiritualist's chapel in the background?
We have cogitated over this photo a few times over the last few years. On the old site first and then more than once on here. One of the questions always was, who is the little lad?

Browsing the Barlickers Then and Now photo site on Facebook, I came across a relative who has identified the lad as her dad after the picture was posted there by Gus. Judie Purdie wrote "This is Danny Wellock my dad". Lots of other comments along the lines as discussed on here. So one particular mystery solved. :grin:
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Here's the pic I posted originally.
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I am going to post this here although this is a new building. The reason is that the bulk of the construction owes more to century's old practices than to modern ones. These buildings are being erected on land adjacent to the old Fosters Arms, they comprise of two pairs of houses being built on two levels, the higher one being nearest to the old pub. No expense is being spared here to ensure that these new homes match the existing buildings whilst at the same time being very energy efficient. The footings are massive steel reinforced concrete, four times that of modern construction, the main buildings are random stone clad using re-cycled material, the inner walls being load bearing block. In-between these two are insulation bats. The build is traditional with stone sills and lintels, corbel stones will support cast metal rainwater guttering. The roof timbering is more modern in the shape of trusses, but the roof itself is to be stone, the chimneys stacks match most of those in this area. It is fair here to pay tribute to the young men who are doing this work, they are damn good at what they do. This is how it looked a couple of weeks ago:-

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This is how it was last Friday:-

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Over the weekend the remainder of the higher level roof trusses went up, today the last of the main stonework has been completed, now the higher level roof construction is under way, there is nothing flimsy about this, it is a credit to those involved.
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The roof of the higher level is now going on, these are serious pieces of reclaimed stone, about 4' long by 2' wide and 2" thick. The builders who have now completed their main work have turned their attention to the boundary walls. The pictures above are of the rear elevation.
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Does the building on the corner of Newtown and Albert Rd have a name and a history?
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Thomo wrote:I am going to post this here although this is a new building. The reason is that the bulk of the construction owes more to century's old practices than to modern ones. These buildings are being erected on land adjacent to the old Fosters Arms, they comprise of two pairs of houses being built on two levels, the higher one being nearest to the old pub. No expense is being spared here to ensure that these new homes match the existing buildings whilst at the same time being very energy efficient. The footings are massive steel reinforced concrete, four times that of modern construction, the main buildings are random stone clad using re-cycled material, the inner walls being load bearing block. In-between these two are insulation bats. The build is traditional with stone sills and lintels, corbel stones will support cast metal rainwater guttering. The roof timbering is more modern in the shape of trusses, but the roof itself is to be stone, the chimneys stacks match most of those in this area. It is fair here to pay tribute to the young men who are doing this work, they are damn good at what they do.

Over the weekend the remainder of the higher level roof trusses went up, today the last of the main stonework has been completed, now the higher level roof construction is under way, there is nothing flimsy about this, it is a credit to those involved.

These superb houses must be at the other end of the spectrum to the red brick houses being built on Valley Road which are totally out of character with the rest of Barlick.
I can't believe they were passed by Pendle Councils' planning department..!
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Sorry Pete, but no freedom to turn the development down on the type of materials...

I expressed a similar view to yours when it came up at the committee, but looking from the site you see the render of homes on Rainhall Road, rendered finish of Coates Estate and Rankin Close. Also there's the finishes of the industrial buildings adjacent to the development. Afraid a government inspector would have given permission without batting an eye lid.

(Strangely, we don't think of the brick built Kelbrook Road as being out of place...)
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P. The old Occasion shop on Newtown is one of the buildings put up by Matthew Hartley who built the Majestic complex and several other buildings in the town. They were all quite distinctive, he favoured good stone, traditional build and often large pediments. There is quite a lot about him on the site. The original building on the site was the barn belonging to Wellhouse Farm on Church Street. The Carr brothers ran it as a slaughter house up to its demolition in about 1900. See Billy Brooks' transcripts in the LTP and Atkinson's 'Old Barlick'. Both on the site.
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Work on he Southern aspect of the roof is now 3/4 complete, each stone slab being overlapped by half its length with the one above. Proper roofing felt is being laid underneath and the roofing battens are much heavier than the modern version, I understand that the windows are to be the modern equivalent of sash windows, but multi functional. and having seen the company's vehicle on site, these will not be Everest or Safestyle! and will be cream In colour.
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The higher level Sothern aspect roof is now almost complete, the remainder of the lower level roof trusses are going into place. The next pic was taken at 1300 today:-

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The next picture is of the front or Northern elevation also taken at 1300 today.

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Building the Westminster Bank on Church Street.
The buildings on the left with the ornate pediments are Matt Hartley builds.
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That bank is the Yorkshire Bank of course!
I've done a site search for the interview I did with Boris Hartley in November 2004 but couldn't find it. I shall post it as a separate article. Matt was a fascinating character and had some very big ideas for Barlick but for one reason or another failed to achieve all his goals. He seems to have had ideas for re-developing all of the Croft area but failed. All he managed was to build what was intended as a public baths but the council refused to lay a water main to serve it and this seems to have been a breaking point in his plans. The building later became the Croft Garage.
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Stanley wrote:The buildings on the left with the ornate pediments are Matt Hartley builds.
You now see them marked on maps as 'York House' . I wonder when they gained this name?
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I don't know P but at that time it was common to give blocks of buildings that were a homogeneous build a name. Plenty of examples around the town with stone name plates built into them so the choice of the builder.
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The Occasion in Newtown in 1984. One of Matt Hartley's buildings, erected 1900.
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The roof of the higher level of the new buildings is now almost complete, and the trusses are in place for the remainder, this is a "proper" roof:-

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The worst job in Pendle? The night soil men in King Street in the winter of 1982.
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Sorry to be pedantic but date is wrong as Borough of Pendle only came in 1974. Nolic
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Looking at the night soil tanker reminded me of the old bin wagons on the same chassis. Do you remember the curved covers to keep the dust down and the 'bin men' carrying dustbins on their shoulders or emptying ash pits like those in the picture? John Waite, one of the last of the old BUDC bin gang is still alive and well. My daughter Susan met him about a fortnight ago and he's managing very well living on his own. Anyone remember 'Ticker' ?
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Would that be "Harry Ticker"? if so then yes, I knew him well, trouble is, I can't remember his real name.
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That's him Peter, big lad with a black moustache. I have an idea he was either the foreman or the driver.
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