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About the same time. Notice the water-bound macadam road surface......
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Mary Lancaster (still alive and well!) was born in that row of cottages and she once told me that they often played out sat in the middle of the road....Impossible to imagine doing that now!
Arthur Morrison was very active in the 60s and 70s raising money for the Village Institute and was waste paper king! He ran a collection service and storage in the stables at the Old Vicarage and they were successful in that they saved the hall and completely refurbished it.
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Stanley wrote: Arthur Morrison was very active in the 60s and 70s raising money for the Village Institute and was waste paper king! He ran a collection service and storage in the stables at the Old Vicarage and they were successful in that they saved the hall and completely refurbished it.
We used to flat pack all the cardboard boxes the TV's, VCR's and Domestic Appliances came in when I worked in the TV trade in Earby all went to Arthur's paper and card collection.
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Mary and I called in at the celebrations when the refurbished hall was re-opened. There was home made wine and I advised Mary not to drink anything that didn't let daylight though! The following day Thornton was like the village of the damned and Kim and Artur were going round ministering to victims of the home made plonk.....
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I wonder when the Barnsey end of the little cut was dammed and the bridge on the towpath was demolished. Obviously sometime after the quarry stopped production but what kind of date? Do you have anything in your index files Stanley?
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I doubt if the watercourse was ever dammed, any water that drained into it from the quarry cut had to drain away. The quarries were run as a source of limestone for Lancashire long after the canal was finished. I haven't an exact date but would suggest early in the 20th century for the realignment and improvement of the canal at Long Ing.
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If the canal and Little Cut are still connected, the water level will be the same in both. Can anyone remember if Little Cut drained if the summit pound was ever emptied?

Does the surface water now drain into the ditch that runs down to Salterforth from Barnsey?
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As the cut was driven into the quarry it would certainly pick up ground water and this must have run even if the summit level was drained.
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I think the level in the little cut stays fairly constant, probably just maintained by seepage and run off. I seem to remember from when I used to fish it in the 60's the Barnsey end was dammed just before the tunnel. there was a lot of rubble in the tunnel itself and I cant remember a lot of water in there. The run in to where it used to join the main canal is all overgrown but I don't think there is any water at that side. Obviously the towpath has been rebuilt where the bridge used to be and there is no engineered connection to the former little cut. What we have now of course is a captive puddle between Ben Lane and Barnsey. It's a shadow of its former self and under a very long process looks like it is being reclaimed back into the landscape.
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One thing that might have a bearing on where the drainage from the little cut went is something Walt Fisher said to me once about Barnsey Shed water supplies for the condenser. Barnsey Shed had no lodge and no obvious connection to the canal which of course would have meant paying the Canal Company a licence fee for extraction. It would be more accurate to say 'what Walt never told me' because he evidently knew what they were doing but refused to tell me. I would not be surprised if they were secretly drawing water out of the Little Cut Only a thought but it is something I never solved. The old manufacturers were experts on water......

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Postman called Hartley(?). Jessie Watkinson says he is buried at Gill Church and his headstone was paid for by public subscription.
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A grand character there!

Something puzzling me this morning... why 'Foresters Buildings'?
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Built by The Ancient Order of Foresters, one of the earliest Friendly Societies.
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This is one of their first Forester branches that was opened in Burnley. The exact details have been lost.
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This is a date stone on Stanley House , Stanley St in Colne. The symbol is similar to that of the Foresters. I'm not sure if this was a Forester building. Over to you Wendy.
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That's a bit of a challenge! I don't know who built Stanley House or who the T.B. was....yet. However, the Stanley in question was the Earl of Derby and the family arms are 3 bucks heads on an azure ground, so the buck on the plaque could be a reference to the Stanley family. I'll work on it.
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I'm beginning to think that Stanley House was built for Dr John Buck....could that be JB rather than TB? He definitely lived in that area at that time. I will check it out in the library tomorrow morning.
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No that is a T
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What about an I as in Iohanus. Is that right, Latin for John.
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No Sue, I'm sure it's a T. Just wishful thinking on my part! I've even checked his wife's maiden name just in case that gave me a T, but she was a Laycock. :sad:
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Could the 'T' refer to another surname? Two persons commemorated?
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Two suspect characters chatting by the wayside at Bancroft in 1977. Young Sid Demaine and Alwin Simpson.
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Young Sid taking a rest from his labours as he built a new barn on Gillians Lane.
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Cracking pics of Sid's small holding, Stanley.

Thanks for the info on Forester's Buildings and the Stanley House references.
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Thanks for that. Here's another! (never encourage a snapper!)

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The design committee.

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Almost completed.....
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Lovely photos, they remind me of the timber garages that car owners used to build along a track by the hen pens behind our house in the 1950s. My Dad and Uncle George built a double garage there. The floors were supported on piles of bricks and always had rabbits living under them. I once flooded the track in front of the garages by diverting a stream after heavy rain. I learnt about unintended consequences and was reminded how much your legs hurt after a good slapping. (I suppose I must be regarded as psychologically disturbed after having been slapped as a child...)
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