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Harriet Harman in the House today. From Hansard.

On Britain’s negotiations with Europe. Of course the negotiations are sensitive, but it is evident that even the people he is negotiating with are not entirely clear what he is negotiating for, and nor are the British people he is negotiating on behalf of.

Quite a put down, despite the poor construction. Oliver Kamm would probably say that ending a sentence with a preposition doesn't matter any more. Cameron of course just brushed it aside with a skill that only many years of grooming at Eton can bring. :smile:
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I like it.....
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A Chinese saying that is particularly relevant today and might also be Vladimir Putin's quote of the day:
"Never let a good crisis go to waste"
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Very perceptive, read Naomi Klein's 'Shock Doctrine' and sit back and have a think.....
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Seen on a T shirt in Cambridge today. Made me smile.

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"A normal person, functioning well on the upper levels of a prosperous, industrialized society, can hardly hear his conscience at all." -Kurt Vonnegut
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"In the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king".
[See THIS for what I think is the origin of the phrase.]
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Sara Thornton, head of the National Police Chiefs Council:- spinning the fact that the Police will not now attend ordinary burglaries.

“We need to move from reacting to some of those traditional crimes to thinking about focusing on threat and harm and risk and really protecting the public”
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I wonder what would happen if she was burgled......
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Tripps wrote: thinking about focusing on threat and harm and risk and really protecting the public”
Are we sure that this isn't a move to the 'Right'? People who live in their gated communities with CCTV and their own security systems rarely get burgled. Just the plebs who live in the urban jungle that take the hit and they hardly matter. So lets concentrate on terrorists or even worse popular uprisings that could upset the current pecking order. Just glance across to America where if anyone steps out of line the are subject to 'shock and awe' by the virtual paramilitary police. Why else would Boris Johnson be wanting to deploy water cannon on London streets?
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"It has always seemed strange to me that in our endless discussions about
education so little stress is laid on the pleasure of becoming an educated
person . . . -Edith Hamilton, classicist (1867-1963)
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Uncle Bob has this as a signature. It chimes in well with my theory that being nosey and learning the history of what is around you enriches your life....
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On a lighter note and following up Sarah Thornton's remarks -
from the Daily Mash

Chief constable Norman Steele explained that the police stopped dealing with crime in 2005 in order to concentrate on Facebook disputes, student demonstrations and PR campaigns.
Steele said: “I apologise if some people didn’t realise, but we did announce it on our Facebook page, just under the competition to design a diversity mascot.
“On that note, I can report that Tatiana the Tolerant Tiger is proving very popular in primary schools.
“The problem is that criminals take up a disproportionate amount of police time. They’re always running away and getting a straight answer out of them is a bloody nightmare. “So it makes more sense to concentrate our resources on areas where we can really make a difference, like tweeting about window locks or responsible drinking.”
Steele added that officers were further stretched by filming numerous reality shows for Freeview channels: “Between Cops, Traffic Cops, Night Cops, Tough Cops, Horse Cops and Overweight But Surprisingly Agile Cops we’ve only got time left for a little bit of paperwork. “The worst part about those shows is they make you jump over walls because it looks cool, which is something we would never do in real life as it is knackering and you could hurt your pelvis.”
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If we have chosen the position in life in which we can most of all work for mankind, no burdens can bow us down, because they are sacrifices for the benefit of all; then we shall experience no petty, limited, selfish joy, but our happiness will belong to millions, our deeds will live on quietly but perpetually at work, and over our ashes will be shed the hot tears of noble people.

Marx, Letter to His Father (1837)
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I've marked a couple of passages from Francis Wheen's biography of Marks.
Have you tried 'book darts' - they're brilliant.

He was a saint, wasn't he?
As a bit of a contrast to the noble sentiments expressed above -

Having quit the editorship of the Rheinische Zeitung -
"I had begun to be stifled in that atmosphere. It is a bad thing to to have to perform menial duties even for the sake of freedom; to fight with pinpricks instead of clubs. I have become tired of hypocrisy, stupidity, gross arbitrariness, and of our bowing and scraping, dodging, and hair-splitting over words.

I found this fascinating too.
Marx was congenitally unsuited to any regular employment. As usual Engels saved the day, sacrificing his own journalistic ambitions in London to take a job at the Manchester office of his father's textile firm Ermen and Engels. He remained there for almost twenty years.
He acted as a secret agent behind enemy lines, sending Marx confidential details of the cotton trade. expert observations on the state of international markets, and - most essentially - a regular consignment of small denomination banknotes,pilfered from the petty cash box or guilefully prised out of the company's bank account. As a precaution against mail theft ( :smile: ) he snipped them in two, posting each half in a separate envelope.)


PS - on a sceptical note -not sure what 'low value bank notes' were in the mid 19th century., I thought they used gold sovereigns etc.
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I don't see him as a saint, just a very important philosopher most of whose predictions have stood the test of time.
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"PS - on a sceptical note -not sure what 'low value bank notes' were in the mid 19th century., I thought they used gold sovereigns etc."...Tripps
The Bank of England was established in 1694 and issued notes but they were high value - equal to about a year's wages! Then it was a bit `on and off', depending on `events dear boy' until 1797 when a run on the bank prompted it to issue £1 and £2 notes. I don't know when the 10-bob note started but they were available in WW1. This Bank of England web page has general historical details: LINK
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From a Chinese schoolteacher after a month teaching in an English school

"She also questioned the use of different teaching programmes for different pupils. ‘You have different syllabuses to suit different students’ ability,’ she said. ‘We don’t. We have one syllabus, one standard; you survive or you die. It’s up to you."
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Tripps wrote:From a Chinese schoolteacher after a month teaching in an English school

"She also questioned the use of different teaching programmes for different pupils. ‘You have different syllabuses to suit different students’ ability,’ she said. ‘We don’t. We have one syllabus, one standard; you survive or you die. It’s up to you."
I've had first hand experience of Chinese education at all levels, including at universities, and in both cities and poor country towns, and I am impressed with the students diligence, politeness and respect. Good, solid, old fashioned '3 Rs' teaching methods. The drawback is "one syllabus" and learning by rote and being unable to think outside the box.
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Not necessarily so damaging to independent thought China. That's how I was taught and I've never been accused of being a conformist!
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chinatyke wrote:The drawback is "one syllabus" and learning by rote and being unable to think outside the box.
I agree with Chinatyke. 99% of my early schooling was by 'rote' Ok if you were blessed with a good memory but none of the teachers took the trouble to explain "why"! I've often thought they didn't know themselves. Perhaps this statement is a bit harsh since many of the things we took as God given facts are just being unravelled by today's pesky scientists.
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“In whom there is no sympathy for living beings: know him as an outcast.”
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As the Buddha said - and boy do I agree with this. . . :smile:

"Believe nothing that doesn't accord with your own reason".
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...but it only works for the common good if your own reasoning is sound and evidence based. I'm sure Donald Trump would be happy to claim it as his motto!
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This isn't about a quote but it's a thought-provoking fact, a reminder of how things were and not so long ago. I was listening to a programme about the composer William Walton on Radio3 and they related some of his life story. In his later years he and his wife were involved in a motor accident and both badly injured; they were hit by a `concrete lorry'. It took them years to get full compensation through the courts because the company that owned the lorry argued that `a married woman doesn't need her looks in order to make a living' (or words to that effect).

On a lighter note, Walton was born in Oldham and Wikipedia states: "Walton was sent to a local school, but in 1912 his father saw a newspaper advertisement for probationer choristers at Christ Church Cathedral School in Oxford and applied for William to be admitted. The boy and his mother missed their intended train from Manchester to Oxford because Walton's father had spent the money for the fare in a local public house. Louisa Walton had to borrow the fares from a greengrocer. Although they arrived in Oxford after the entrance trials were over, Mrs Walton successfully pleaded for her son to be heard, and he was accepted." Fathers, eh!
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Traitor I'd say. :smile:

"He shed his accent and later explained that he was driven to begin composing by a desire to stay in the sophisticated south. 'I must make myself interesting somehow or when my voice breaks, I'll be sent home to Oldham', he said. But northerners are tolerant of genius and did not take offence. Oldham later gave Walton the freedom of the borough."
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