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DISSENT IN BARLICK

Being a Dissenter in Barlick in the early 16th century wasn't a comfortable option. The Ecclesiastical Courts were very powerful and persecuted them as heretics which could mean the death penalty. They held their meetings in private houses or out in the open air in remote locations with lookouts posted to warn of any interference. One interesting consequence of this was that they didn't use music or singing as part of the service because this would attract attention. Even when they were legalised and had their own church the Baptists kept to this rule until 1718 when Alvery Jackson was appointed Pastor and preached a sermon in favour of singing in the service. One problem was that there was a dearth of hymn books but Alvery remedied this by producing a song book and writing 42 hymns himself.
Lewis is of the opinion that the Baptists belong to the oldest thread of Dissent and in earlier times were known as Anabaptists, Mennonites and Waldenses. These sects were Europe wide and part of the old reaction against the Church of Rome. In Henry VIII's time they were usually called Anabaptists and were persecuted, many being burned as heretics. We have no record of burnings in Barlick but even so, being a Dissenter was a dangerous course. This was true right through the Reformation of the 16th century. Even though divorced from Rome after 1536 the official religion still followed the Catholic liturgy and reform proceeded slowly from 1534 onwards with the Dissolution of the Monasteries, the introduction of the Great Bible in English and eventually in 1611 with the King James Bible.
This wasn't clear at the time, Barlick's dissenters never knew quite which way the wind was blowing and had to keep a low profile. When Henry died in 1547 his son Edward VI was a strong Protestant and gave some respite until 1553 when Catholic Mary took the throne and reversed all the reforms unleashing a savage attack on the Dissenters. This must have been a very worrying time for the Barlickers. However, in 1558 Mary died and Elizabeth came to the throne. Her policy was one of tolerance and things must have improved in the town. Though still technically illegal, dissent could be pursued, not quite in public but certainly with less secrecy. Church attendance was still compulsory and was reinforced by the Act of Supremacy in 1558. Official toleration didn't come until the passing of the Toleration Act of 1689 but there must have been quite a bit of freedom in Barlick because in 1661 three members of the Baptist Church in Barlick held property in Walmsgate which was to become the chapel. There were still intermittent bursts of persecution, one in particular was the Conventicle Act of 1664 which aimed at the suppression of all Non-conformists. Lewis reports that sometimes during the service the preacher had to escape through 'a convenient exit behind the pulpit' and the congregation scattered. There are records of local preachers being arrested and imprisoned in York Castle. In 1689 the Act of Toleration was passed and at last dissent became lawful. The Walmsgate chapel was one of the first meeting houses in the country to register as a fully fledged centre for non-conformist worship. The long battles were over and our Old Barlickers could worship in total freedom. The question I ask myself is how they managed to endure the fight for their rights?
As we have noted many times, there's something different about Barlick. Partly due to being isolated from main roads, partly because of inward migration and almost certainly by being remote from the law-makers in London in the days when the North West of England was almost the Wild West. It's no accident that the Guild System never thrived here, this was one of the factors that encouraged the domestic textile trade, no regulation by wealthy merchants. As early as the 12th century, when the Cistercian monks from Fountains Abbey were trying to establish the monastery they complained about the unruly inhabitants who objected to being evicted from their land and having the ancient Saxon church destroyed. As late as the 1930s Barlick was a hotbed of industrial protest and one of the first places in the country to have a local Communist Party. All these things are evidence of independent thought and a reluctance to follow the main stream. I see the history of Dissent in Barlick as being yet another piece of evidence for something quite unique.
We can see this today in our largely unspoiled townscape. The extraordinary way our small independent shops have survived despite the onslaught of big business, in particular the revolution in retailing of the supermarkets. This isn't just a matter of blinkered local pride, overseas visitors realise immediately that we have something special. I know that three articles on the rise of dissent won't please everyone but if we are going to keep what we have we must take the trouble to understand how we got to where we are now. The free-thinking Barlickers who survived the Black Death, stuck to the town and eventually prospered gave us the entrepreneurs of the cotton industry that meant 14 steam mills, 25,000 looms and the profits that paid for the modernisation of the town. Again, it's no accident that many of these enterprising men and women were Dissenters.
When we take the trouble to unpick the rich tapestry of Barlick history we get threads like Dissent and this is just one element in the way our ancestors thought and acted. We live in an increasingly uniform age where even the High Streets have the same chain store brands above the doors all over the country. We don't have to endure the same dangers that the Dissenters had to cope with so there is less of a barrier to thinking independently. Please give this one thread some thought and realise that if we want to keep our lovely little town as it is we might occasionally have to stand up and speak out. Being independently minded has served us well in the past, there's no reason why it shouldn't do so in the future. Pick your battles and fight them, if nothing else it will be interesting!

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How much did Dissent contribute to this scene?
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Stanley wrote:How much did Dissent contribute to this scene?
Quite a lot in the late 1980's!

The proposal to demolish the Co-op on Albert Road and create the town square and sett paved street we have today caused a lot of dissent. Those of us who thought it was the right thing for the town had to address the concerns of people wanting to save the Co-op building or who wanted a tarmac car park or another building in its place.

Struggling to get something something done against the established order, I'd be in the dissenter camp on this issue. But others may not agree?
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David Whipp wrote:
Stanley wrote:How much did Dissent contribute to this scene?
Quite a lot in the late 1980's!

The proposal to demolish the Co-op on Albert Road and create the town square and sett paved street we have today caused a lot of dissent. Those of us who thought it was the right thing for the town had to address the concerns of people wanting to save the Co-op building or who wanted a tarmac car park or another building in its place.
I can only go on pictures but, although an imposing building, I feel the square is a far greater assett to the town. Although probably not practical, it would be nice to see more setts on the surrounding streets. The attraction of tourism should be encouraged, but that is just my opinion.
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When it was first proposed to demolish the old Co-op building I was dead against it but I was wrong. The Town Square is a great asset. Funnily enough the last time I went into print about it I was defending it against putting anything else on it. Its value is as an open circulating space and on a fine day it's full of people talking to each other. Wonderful! Let's keep it that way. Only improvement I would like to see now is the flower beds planted with vegetables free to anyone to pick and use! (See Todmorden and the scheme they have there)
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Stanley wrote:Only improvement I would like to see now is the flower baeds planted with vegetables free to anyone to pick and use! (See Todmorden and the scheme they have there)
Barlick in Bloom's theme for this year is Edible Barlick. The middle two raised beds on the square will be carpet bed planted with herbs.

All the primary schools in Barlick are taking part and most have already sown seeds for edibles (including edible flowers). Some of these seedlings will be grown on in pop-up planters which'll be brought onto the square sometime in July.

The existing beds at the Rainhall Centre (and some new ones too, if all goes well) will again be planted up with edible stuff.

An issue with planting on the town square is the impact of the pigeons. They chomp away at most things (encouraged by folk scattering bread for them on the beds).

Bringing it back to dissent, I was tackled about the pigeons by one of four elderly ladies sat on a bench. "What are you going to do about these pests?" she asked.

As I was explaining that I'd like to feed them contraceptives as a humane way of controlling numbers, the elderly lady at the other end of the bench dissented, "Don't you be touching them pigeons!" she exclaimed.

I left them arguing across their two middle of the bench sitting friends.
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Big Kev wrote:it would be nice to see more setts on the surrounding streets.
Me too, but they do cause problems for some. People using wheelchairs and mobility scooters find them difficult to cross.

As well as on Albert Road, I got them used on the steep section of St James Road when that rocky road was made up and adopted. Both sett paved areas have had their fair share of complaints since.

As part of one of the heritage schemes carried out in Barlick, the setts on Jepp Hill were renovated; some folk would have preferred them tarmaccing.
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Surely Todmorden has pigeons? How about asking them whether they are a problem.
If Sue is reading this, could you ask someone connected with the Tod planting and ask them?
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I have never heard of a problem Stanley, mind you they do have ducks that waddle around near the canal plantings!
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This is the last of the three articles on dissent. There is much in here that we should remind ourselves of. More than ever we need to nurture our small family businesses. We have lost the banks and have too many charity shops!
We did get a bookshop last year but unfortunately it failed.
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I fear the glory days of the independent shops has gone, the tanning saloons, nail bars and pop up churches are here to stay. All the more reason to look after the ones that survive!
(I bought my new razor at Garlicks when everything else failed. I should have gone there in the first place..... !)
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